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Before I begin, I would like to say that this is my personal opinion along with evidence to support my opinion. bạn are free to disagree with me, but please, no hating. Also, please do not accuse me of not đọc the books. I have read each of the novels in the Twilight "Saga", from Twilight to Breaking Dawn. I have also read all of the Harry Potter sách (numerous times), from Philosophers Stone to Deathly Hallows.

It annoys me enormously, hearing people say that Twilight is better than Harry Potter. I personally believe that Harry Potter overshadows Twilight in every area, in every way, shape and form. I look at reasons why Twilighters think that Twilight is better than Harry Potter, and here is what I see:

-Because Edward is so hot! Harry is ugly!
-Twilight is thêm realistic!
-Twilight has thêm love!

I do not think that a book is amazing just because a character is gorgeous. In fact, I think that the fact that all the good guys are beautiful in Twilight is really arrogant and reflects very poor things about Stephenie Meyer. In Harry Potter, bạn have some good guys that are beautiful and others that are not so nice looking. For example, Luna Lovegood and Cedric Diggory are supposed to be very pleasant to look at, but characters such as Mad-Eye Moody are... not so nice looking. Yet Mad-Eye is still, undoubtably, a very good character.

Twilight is bởi no means thêm realistic than Harry Potter. Yes, I know, Harry Potter has magic, Twilight takes place in a real setting. First thing: the "logic" in Twilight is embarrasing. It is clear that Meyer did as little research as possible, not really thinking things through before deciding what happens. Harry Potter, on the other hand, does not need logic. It's magic! Secondly, the characters of Harry Potter are a lot thêm realistic that those of Twilight. Besides being well developed, the characters of Harry Potter are not passing for "perfect". Each one has flaws and strengths, and each reacts appropriately for different situations. Twilight, on the other hand, is extremely unrealistic when it comes to character reactions. For example, Bella is one of the least likable characters of all time (I will get to her later on, though), yet everyone seems to tình yêu and ADORE her. In fact, anybody who does not tình yêu her either changes their mind later on hoặc is viewed as a bad guy, a bitch, hoặc extraordinarily shallow. Also, did bạn notice that in Forks High School, there are only two cliques? The được ưa chuộng Folks and The Vampires? Not to mention, the two groups merge into one in the end. At Hogwarts, bạn have Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs, Ravenclaws, Slytherins, Quidditch Players, Pranksters, Extreme Studiers, Dumbledore's Army, người hâm mộ Girls, Rich Folk, Death Eaters To Be, Bullies, Outcasts, the danh sách goes on.

Another thing: Twilight does not have love. Bella does not tình yêu Edward. She would never have even looked twice at him if he weren't oh so gorgeous. It is pure lust. Same goes for Edward. If she didn't smell so wonderful, do bạn think he would have cared? If he could read her thoughts, he would be repulsed. As for the whole Imprinting thing? It is an excuse, an easy way out, a way for Meyer to make Jacob fall in "love" with Renesmee without looking like a pedophile. In Harry Potter, there are all different types of love. There is romantic tình yêu (Ron and Hermione are the cutest couple on the face of the earth! And there's failed relationships, look at Harry and Cho. Haha), tình yêu of Những người bạn (Harry would die for his friends, and they would do the same for him), unrequited tình yêu (if bạn weren't touched bởi Snape's story, bạn must be heartless!), motherly tình yêu (Lily dying to save Harry, Molly Weasley killing Bellatrix for her tình yêu of Fred and Ginny), and all sorts of things. If bạn want to talk romance, though, let me tell you; Ron and Hermione fell in tình yêu slowly through the years. They didn't know each other for, what, one week? then say "Oh, I am eternally in tình yêu with you! bạn are my one true love!" They are in love, not overpowered lust.

Let's talk about Bella, now shall we? She is the definiiton of a Mary Sue. Self insert is evident to an extreme, and she is supposedly "flawless". All of the characters tình yêu her, despite all the horrible things she does to them. I mean, how can Jacob still like her after all the things she's done to that poor guy? She is also a slut. She goes off and kisses a guy who isn't her boyfriend, leading him on every other page, then doesn't hesitate to dump him and break his heart, even though she "cares" so much about him. She abuses all of her friends. Can bạn really blame Jessica for not wanting to be Những người bạn with Bella anymore? She saw that Bella just uses her Những người bạn when it benefits her, then dumps them like trash, not caring one bit about them hoặc any of their problems hoặc anything, and still has the nerve to expect them to remain loyal to her, and if they don't, they are "bad friends". Abusive, much? She is also extremely selfish and unbelievably whiny. She complains about how "horrible" her life is, when really, she is just extremely ungrateful. All she does is whine, that is, when she isn't rambling endlessly about how pretty her boyfriend is.

Now I want to talk about Edward. People say they tình yêu him so much, but let me ask bạn this: how many những người hâm mộ would still tình yêu him this much if he were ugly? I would say, oh, maybe .001% at best? Of course, Bella wouldn't even spare a một giây glance at him if he weren't supermodel gorgeous, so there would be no story, but that is beside the point. Edward is also abusive. I know, he's never hit her. I mean he is emotionally abusive. He toys with her emotions to get his way. He dominates her, controlling who she can and cannot see, what she can and cannot do, where she can and cannot go. He is also a stalker. He follows her around and breaks into her house at night to watch her sleep. That is just creepy. Of course, he is hot, so that must mean he's in tình yêu with her, right? Um, not so much.

Let's get Harry Potter back into this. I would like to point out that Harry Potter, unlike Twilight, actually has a plot. It lasts through all the books, the main theme being to defeat Voldemort and his followers, with subplots in each book. In fact, there are sub-subplots, even sub-sub-subplots. There are details that seem minor hoặc irrelevant that all turn out to be of extreme importance in the end. Twilight? What is the main plot of the first book? Talking about how beautiful your boyfriend is is NOT a plot. The whole thing with James and his "dangerous" clan seems to be thêm of an "oh, whoops! I forgot to add a plot! Let's just throw this thing in quickly, and we'll call it a plot." Very quick and lazy, with little detail and a resolution that comes far too easily. một giây book? She sulks around for the majority of the book, and the plot seems, once again, to be a forgotten thing thrown in quickly. In Eclipse, bạn could argue that there is a plot. Victoria wants revenge on Bella and Edward. The problem is, the plot goes nowhere until the very end, where it is, once again, resolved way too easily. The Cullens went into their big fight knowing they would all come out alive and well, and that is exactly what happened. No risks, no sacrifice. In Breaking Dawn, there were two different plots. The first was having the baby, Renesmee, who shouldn't have existed in the first place. The tiếp theo plot is extremely disappointing. They build up to the huge climax, and what happens? Their ultimate battle ends in conversation. The Cullens don't give up anything, and it's way too much of a happily ever after. Pretty pathetic, if bạn ask me.

Let's address the anti-feminism of Twilight. It is extremely anti-feminist. Bella can't do ANYTHING for herself, and she always need Edward hoặc Jacob coming to the rescue. Edward and Jacob are both extremely strong and fast so they can control her. Why are the female ma cà rồng unable to have babies, while male ma cà rồng can if they mate with a human? Besides being illogical, it's anti-feminist. Even Alice, who's supposed to be a good fighter, depends completely on her abilities. If they are taken away, she has nothing. The male vampires, however, can still fight without their powers. Also, she goes into super-depressed mode when her boyfriend dumps her. That's understandable. But how long does she stay there? Over four months. That is ridiculous. And the only thing to raise her out of her depression is having another guy obsessing over her. What is this constant need for a man in her life? Even on her free time, what does she do? She happily cooks and cleans for her father, who sits on the đi văng watching football, drinking beer, cleaning his gun. How is this not anti-feminist? In Harry Potter, however, Hermione is very capable, and Harry and Ron would not have made it to the end of the series if it weren't for her. They depend on her just as much as she depends on them. Ginny is also a very capable girl. She can fight for herself, she doesn't need a man constantly looking after her. In fact, all the Harry Potter females are just as capable as the males are. Also, when Ron leaves Hermione in Deathly Hallows, she becomes very upset, but she moves on. She never really gets over it, but she moves on with her life. She realizes it is not the end of the world, and if she hadn't gotten her act together, Voldemort may not have been defeated. When Harry leaves Ginny, she is upset, but doesn't go suicidal about it. She moves on, she continues to treat her Những người bạn right, she moves on.

One final note now. I want to go over messages. In Twilight, there are no good messages. If there are, please name one and then use evidence! Do not just make claims. But as of this point, I have not found one single good message of Twilight. And no, "stalking is hot" does NOT count as a good message, and neither does "if bạn do not have a man in your life, there is not point in living". "Pedophilia is okay as long as bạn have an excuse" doesn't count either. In Harry Potter, there are good messages weaved in all over the place. There are messages about what fear can do to people, how fear can easily turn into hatred hoặc ignorance. There are messages about how tình yêu is the most powerful thing in the world. There are messages about friendship, about life, about death, about working hard, about greed, about loss, and especially about growing up.

I could go on, but I'm getting tired now. I think I've made my point. Remember, this is just my opinion. I backed up my opinion with evidence so that it could become a strong argument, and anyone is free to disagree. Just no hating please. HARRY POTTER RULES!!!!!!!! XD
A few years back I read an bài viết about Robert Pattinson and Rupert Grint and a bet.

Actually it's about what the loser got to do when they lose the bet rather than the bet itself(it was never really mentioned,anyway).

Here's what the bài viết says:

Despite the chilly weather, we got to chat with Rupert while he waited for some friends. gần đây reports about this famous redhead stripping down for his upcoming film "Cherrybomb" had Rupert grinning, "No, actually it was really cool, even though that was a very intense kind of scary moment. I was nervous but everything came out great."

We quickly asked...
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So, bạn like Harry Potter? What about Twilight?
I've read (and watched) them both.
When I was twelve I picked up a paper back cover of "Twilight" at the airport for something to read on my plane ride home. I did become quite infatuated with the series, tearing through the second, third and fourth books. I went on this người hâm mộ club on my old account (which I have long since abandoned) and talked trash about Harry Potter, and talked about how wonderful Twilight was. I talked about Twilight like it was my Bible, and mocked Harry Potter (which I knew tiếp theo to nothing about). However, when I was thirteen,...
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posted by spongebob105
Did bạn ever think that dumbledore was useing harry potter? Well he did! As bạn can see in snape's thoughts that he did. Dumbledore đã đưa ý kiến that he was like a pig up for slauter! I mean who is mean to say that hoặc act twards that person. WELL HE DID!



He doesn't realy think about what would he feel if he was steping into his shoes. I mean come on. He thinks he so COOL that he has the elder wand. HE'S A NORMAL PERSON FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!


Well now getting back to the subject. Dumbledore is a MEAN person so if bạn want to find out your self then go to chapter that says "Snape's Memories"
-Spongebob105
Arthur Weasley: Father of 7 kids, loves his wife Molly, works hard to make ends meet and never seen lying around the house like some Husbands, although low-income, he continues to be positive and happy about life, loyal, jokes around sometimes, there for his children, offers to be a father figure to Harry, never gives up, and [on a side-note] very accepting of others. He also gives Lời khuyên as well and doesn't let enemies get him down.

Charlie Swan: Has only 1 daughter, divorced and never thought on dating anyone else, when he's not working he either hunts hoặc sits all ngày drinking bia and watching...
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This is purely my opinion. NOTE: A lot of these are jokes.

1. Hermione should become an anti-feminist

2. Harry should have killed Dobby in book 2

3. Trixy's torture should have left permanently disfiguring scars

4. Hermione should have bigger flaws. Something thêm that being kind of bossy

5. vampires

6. The United States of America

7. Ginny becomes a prostitute, as nature would have it.

8. Ron died playing chess

9. Dumbledore gets killed bởi a unicorn

10. Harry's scar was on the inside of his wrist.

11. The Sô cô la shouldn't be alive

12. They listened to music

13. They drive cars

14. Kristen Stewart should...
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1. Twilight has thêm deph to their plot
2. The harry potter characters are mary-sues
3. The harry potteR characters are sparkly wizards
4. The characters in twilight matured while harry potter characters didnt
5. twilight has a theme park based on them
6. smeyer created a world while j k rowling created a book
7. twilight is aimed for people of all ages while harry potter is aimed for teenage girls
8. The war in harry potter was anti-climatic
9. twilight is about tình yêu and friendship while harry potter focuses on how to get a boyfriend
10. even daniel radcliffe says that he didnt like the character he...
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 She's pro-Twilight!
She's pro-Twilight!
So yes... this is the interview I did with KatiiCullen94... enjoy! I added a few pics as well.

 Her yêu thích character: Jacob Black
Her yêu thích character: Jacob Black


1) What is your reaction for winning FOTM?

Well, I'm awfully surprised, and Happy. I've never won hoặc parcipated in something like this. Like I'm responsible for the FOTM for the Kristen Stewart Club, but I'm the Interviewer not the other way round. I diddn't think I was even nominated :)

2) Tell us about yourself.

Well, My name is Kaitlyn. But my nickmane is Keppie (K-Kaitlyn, E- Elizabeth, PP-Pead, IE- Cause it's cute)
I'm 16, And I'm Australian. That's the basics....
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posted by KateKicksAss
**If Twilight HAD gone this way, we wouldn't have gotten past book one!**


Bella: *walking into Forks High School* Oh, look, that guy is kind of hot. His name's Edward? Oh well, who cares anyway? There's thêm to life than hot guys. hoặc guys in general.

Bella: Oh, look, i'm really được ưa chuộng for some reason. Well, these people seem okay. I'll be a good friend, and not ignore people hoặc treat them like crap, and DEFINITELY not ditch them to hang out with my some guy.

Edward: I tình yêu bạn Bella. Hey, wanna go out with me?

Bella: Um, creepy much? *sigh* Fine, i'll go out with you.

Bella: Okay, you're nice...
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Oh do bạn not see, the language so cruciated,
bởi your most unfortunate attempt in grammars?
Do bạn believe, for that moment that we're mirthed?
Well, then bạn are as mistaken as the Balaclava Brits.

Don't bạn see, your own insults to your common decency?
Do bạn not hear, our desperate attempts to save your sanity?
I hope bạn hear, I must hope bạn see.
But I think, bạn only see your vanity.

Vanity, vanity, everything vanity...
But then where are your humanity? The World wonder'd...

Dedicated to iluvtwilight, ellietwilight12 and every other rabid người hâm mộ in the whole wide world. I plead to you: Stop this madness...

Inspiration: Alfred, Lord Tennyson; the Charge of the Light Brigade
Okay so first of i am going to say again i am a người hâm mộ of both.But if bạn would ask me what i like better i think it would probably be Harry Potter.But i want to hear out why do bạn dislike/hate(tho hate it's to of a strong word for a book/movie)Twilight.I want solid arguments not such as : cause the ma cà rồng there sparkle , like this Twilight những người hâm mộ could just say 'because Harry has a scar' hoặc 'because they go to a school of magic' hoặc 'because all death eaters are black(mostly)' i mean these are arguments just so bạn can say something.I tend to believe these days people hate/dislike Twilight just because others do.And i will ask bạn nicely and be thankful if bạn could tell me why bạn don't like it at all/hate it.
Dear Stephenie Meyer,
First I would like to thank bạn for taking the time to read my letter. It means a lot to me. In this letter, I would like to explain why I do not like the Twilight series and how it did have room for improvment.
The main problem I had with the series is how Bella and Edward's tình yêu is shown to be ideal, when in fact, it's unhealthy. Throughout the books, we do not get any insight on their hobbies and likes/dislikes. The problem with this is that we do not know if Edward hoặc Bella share any common interests to be considered perfect for each other. In fact, they only had...
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posted by GemonkDruid
Twilight fans, this is a thảo luận spot. So DEBATE. There are a few issues I see at this spot concerning bạn guys:

- Saying it's better because Edward/Jacob is hot

Okay, those kind of arguments are instantly invalid, coz beauty is subjective and depends on one's perspective. Also, can bạn actually SEE what they look like in the book series? Nope. And the inside of the person is what really counts.

- Saying it's better coz it's a tình yêu story

What Bella and Edward have is not love, it's infatuation. They only like each other because of how the other person looks like/smells. They never chit-chat like...
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When me and my friend Fiona were in the sixth grade, we decided to write a fanfiction about the Twilight characters going to Hogwarts. (We were both major Twilight những người hâm mộ then.) I wasn't the best writer in those days, so the beginning of the fanfic isn't great, but it gets better as we go along.
You'll notice that our seprate entries can get a bit confusing at times, and that's because we were nghề viết văn bởi e-mail because she lives six hours away from me, and we were just making it up as we went along. Fiona is nghề viết văn about the character Peace, and I am using the character that I use for EVERYTHING,...
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posted by HecateA
So lately I've been thinking of the Cullens and how damn rich they are. And then I stop and go, wait a minute, how is that possible?

So I am going to compare the Cullen expenses and the average normal-people expenses in this chart.

Expense Normal People The Cullens

-Food X X*
-Clothing X X*
-Shelter X X
-Gas X X
-Inssurance X
-Electricity X X
-Running water X ?*
-Heating/cooling X
-School supplies X X
-Blood X
-At trang chủ
Medical supplies
and medicine X X*
-Private island X*
and its maintenance X
-Cottage hoặc
campground, etc X
-Travel expenses X X*
-Cell phones X X
-Useless Twilight
merchandise X
-Lunch money...
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posted by rangarajvignesh
The World is flat!
    Well, I know bạn câu hỏi my sanity, now. Obviously, the world is round and that’s a proven fact, from the moment Galileo stepped out of his ship. And now, there’s a câu hỏi again. Is the World really round? I hate that word, really. The word which gives rise to a lot of các câu hỏi and seeks for explanations.
    ‘Imagination is thêm important than knowledge,’ đã đưa ý kiến a wise man once. And, it’s true. Well, bạn need not be aware of the complications of four-dimensional không gian fabric to accept this theory. What all bạn need to...
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posted by emilykuru
BELLA thiên nga _ part 1

Ummm…. What can i say about her………….er…….nothing interesting but i can hiển thị u guys why she spoils the story


1.she is a hopeless char.she degrades herself,

2.she is stupid 2 leave her mom and come to forks when she begs her 2 comeback.

ok! if u guys say that it was because of the tình yêu for renee then it is totally wrong.

which daughter who loved her mom so much as to go 2 the place which she considers
hell just for her moms happiness would forget all about renee when jumping off a cliff to hear edwards voice.
doesnt she always worry in the story that she has...
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posted by harrypotterbest
There is, in the world, a girl called Z-----. thêm commonly known on this website as Best, that is the name that shall be used for this anti story.
Now, when best was 11 years old, she had read all the Harry Potter books, and loved them. I’m talking about waiting for her Hogwarts acceptance letter to come and carving wands. She truly loved the series. In 2009, she went to a wedding. Her aunt there had read the Harry Potter books, except for the last one. She also had a cousin there, who was a huge người hâm mộ of Twilight. Now, at that time, best hadn’t read Twilight. Her aunt was also a huge fan...
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posted by harrypotterbest
As Edward and Harry settled the final means of the battle, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny had a talk.
“Who wrote this rubbish?” asked Ron. “Sparkle in the sun, battle with debate, they don’t even drink proper blood!”
Hermione, as usual, was the one to answer. “Ron, everyone knows Stephanie Meyer wrote this ‘rubbish.’ She’s not a very good writer, according to The Daily Prophet, and for once I agree with them,” Hermione rolled her eyes. “At least OUR writer, the brilliant J K Rowling, didn’t make US sparkle in the sun. What nonsense!”
“Do bạn know where this Meyer person...
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I'm tired of repeating myself and other HP những người hâm mộ repeating themselves constantly so here is my opinion on why Harry Potter is better. So bạn don't think I'm being biased, let me tell you: I read Harry Potter when I was 5 and have been a người hâm mộ since (and that shuts down the bình luận that little kids can't read it bởi the way) and when I was 13, I read Twilight (before the bandwagon) and loved it. Then just recently, I got off the Twilight High. So I know how it is to have liked Twilight and to like Harry Potter.

First, we can look at the authors. JK Rowling is the epitome of Rag to Riches. She started...
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posted by NataliaLidia
i persenally dont like ether series and heres why!!!

books
twilight
1) i am a reel vampire and i do not sparkl!!! stephanie shud have người đi đòi nợ, dun her reasearch before she wrote a book about vampires!!!
2) bella is a bad roll model!!!
4) edwerd is abusiv!!!
5) its unrealistic!!!
6) its badly writen!!!
7) edwerd is describd to much!!! it gets boring!!!
8) its boring overall!!!

harry potter
1) its not relatble!!!
2) its made for kids!!!
3)harry always beets te bad guy!!! he never looses!!!
4) harry gets away wit everything in skool!!!
5) they hav bad frends!!! ron leaves nd dosnt stay wit harry when peeps make fun of him!!!
6) its boring!!!
7) snape keeps his job even tho he bullys students nd is a deth eater!!!
8) dumbledoor doesnt reely care about harry!!! he leaves him at da durslys even tho they are abusiv!!!

movies
both phim chiếu rạp hav bad actors nd the filmers didnt follows the boks the way they were suposed to!!!