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Before I begin, I would like to say that this is my personal opinion along with evidence to support my opinion. bạn are free to disagree with me, but please, no hating. Also, please do not accuse me of not đọc the books. I have read each of the novels in the Twilight "Saga", from Twilight to Breaking Dawn. I have also read all of the Harry Potter sách (numerous times), from Philosophers Stone to Deathly Hallows.

It annoys me enormously, hearing people say that Twilight is better than Harry Potter. I personally believe that Harry Potter overshadows Twilight in every area, in every way, shape and form. I look at reasons why Twilighters think that Twilight is better than Harry Potter, and here is what I see:

-Because Edward is so hot! Harry is ugly!
-Twilight is thêm realistic!
-Twilight has thêm love!

I do not think that a book is amazing just because a character is gorgeous. In fact, I think that the fact that all the good guys are beautiful in Twilight is really arrogant and reflects very poor things about Stephenie Meyer. In Harry Potter, bạn have some good guys that are beautiful and others that are not so nice looking. For example, Luna Lovegood and Cedric Diggory are supposed to be very pleasant to look at, but characters such as Mad-Eye Moody are... not so nice looking. Yet Mad-Eye is still, undoubtably, a very good character.

Twilight is bởi no means thêm realistic than Harry Potter. Yes, I know, Harry Potter has magic, Twilight takes place in a real setting. First thing: the "logic" in Twilight is embarrasing. It is clear that Meyer did as little research as possible, not really thinking things through before deciding what happens. Harry Potter, on the other hand, does not need logic. It's magic! Secondly, the characters of Harry Potter are a lot thêm realistic that those of Twilight. Besides being well developed, the characters of Harry Potter are not passing for "perfect". Each one has flaws and strengths, and each reacts appropriately for different situations. Twilight, on the other hand, is extremely unrealistic when it comes to character reactions. For example, Bella is one of the least likable characters of all time (I will get to her later on, though), yet everyone seems to tình yêu and ADORE her. In fact, anybody who does not tình yêu her either changes their mind later on hoặc is viewed as a bad guy, a bitch, hoặc extraordinarily shallow. Also, did bạn notice that in Forks High School, there are only two cliques? The được ưa chuộng Folks and The Vampires? Not to mention, the two groups merge into one in the end. At Hogwarts, bạn have Gryffindors, Hufflepuffs, Ravenclaws, Slytherins, Quidditch Players, Pranksters, Extreme Studiers, Dumbledore's Army, người hâm mộ Girls, Rich Folk, Death Eaters To Be, Bullies, Outcasts, the danh sách goes on.

Another thing: Twilight does not have love. Bella does not tình yêu Edward. She would never have even looked twice at him if he weren't oh so gorgeous. It is pure lust. Same goes for Edward. If she didn't smell so wonderful, do bạn think he would have cared? If he could read her thoughts, he would be repulsed. As for the whole Imprinting thing? It is an excuse, an easy way out, a way for Meyer to make Jacob fall in "love" with Renesmee without looking like a pedophile. In Harry Potter, there are all different types of love. There is romantic tình yêu (Ron and Hermione are the cutest couple on the face of the earth! And there's failed relationships, look at Harry and Cho. Haha), tình yêu of Những người bạn (Harry would die for his friends, and they would do the same for him), unrequited tình yêu (if bạn weren't touched bởi Snape's story, bạn must be heartless!), motherly tình yêu (Lily dying to save Harry, Molly Weasley killing Bellatrix for her tình yêu of Fred and Ginny), and all sorts of things. If bạn want to talk romance, though, let me tell you; Ron and Hermione fell in tình yêu slowly through the years. They didn't know each other for, what, one week? then say "Oh, I am eternally in tình yêu with you! bạn are my one true love!" They are in love, not overpowered lust.

Let's talk about Bella, now shall we? She is the definiiton of a Mary Sue. Self insert is evident to an extreme, and she is supposedly "flawless". All of the characters tình yêu her, despite all the horrible things she does to them. I mean, how can Jacob still like her after all the things she's done to that poor guy? She is also a slut. She goes off and kisses a guy who isn't her boyfriend, leading him on every other page, then doesn't hesitate to dump him and break his heart, even though she "cares" so much about him. She abuses all of her friends. Can bạn really blame Jessica for not wanting to be Những người bạn with Bella anymore? She saw that Bella just uses her Những người bạn when it benefits her, then dumps them like trash, not caring one bit about them hoặc any of their problems hoặc anything, and still has the nerve to expect them to remain loyal to her, and if they don't, they are "bad friends". Abusive, much? She is also extremely selfish and unbelievably whiny. She complains about how "horrible" her life is, when really, she is just extremely ungrateful. All she does is whine, that is, when she isn't rambling endlessly about how pretty her boyfriend is.

Now I want to talk about Edward. People say they tình yêu him so much, but let me ask bạn this: how many những người hâm mộ would still tình yêu him this much if he were ugly? I would say, oh, maybe .001% at best? Of course, Bella wouldn't even spare a một giây glance at him if he weren't supermodel gorgeous, so there would be no story, but that is beside the point. Edward is also abusive. I know, he's never hit her. I mean he is emotionally abusive. He toys with her emotions to get his way. He dominates her, controlling who she can and cannot see, what she can and cannot do, where she can and cannot go. He is also a stalker. He follows her around and breaks into her house at night to watch her sleep. That is just creepy. Of course, he is hot, so that must mean he's in tình yêu with her, right? Um, not so much.

Let's get Harry Potter back into this. I would like to point out that Harry Potter, unlike Twilight, actually has a plot. It lasts through all the books, the main theme being to defeat Voldemort and his followers, with subplots in each book. In fact, there are sub-subplots, even sub-sub-subplots. There are details that seem minor hoặc irrelevant that all turn out to be of extreme importance in the end. Twilight? What is the main plot of the first book? Talking about how beautiful your boyfriend is is NOT a plot. The whole thing with James and his "dangerous" clan seems to be thêm of an "oh, whoops! I forgot to add a plot! Let's just throw this thing in quickly, and we'll call it a plot." Very quick and lazy, with little detail and a resolution that comes far too easily. một giây book? She sulks around for the majority of the book, and the plot seems, once again, to be a forgotten thing thrown in quickly. In Eclipse, bạn could argue that there is a plot. Victoria wants revenge on Bella and Edward. The problem is, the plot goes nowhere until the very end, where it is, once again, resolved way too easily. The Cullens went into their big fight knowing they would all come out alive and well, and that is exactly what happened. No risks, no sacrifice. In Breaking Dawn, there were two different plots. The first was having the baby, Renesmee, who shouldn't have existed in the first place. The tiếp theo plot is extremely disappointing. They build up to the huge climax, and what happens? Their ultimate battle ends in conversation. The Cullens don't give up anything, and it's way too much of a happily ever after. Pretty pathetic, if bạn ask me.

Let's address the anti-feminism of Twilight. It is extremely anti-feminist. Bella can't do ANYTHING for herself, and she always need Edward hoặc Jacob coming to the rescue. Edward and Jacob are both extremely strong and fast so they can control her. Why are the female ma cà rồng unable to have babies, while male ma cà rồng can if they mate with a human? Besides being illogical, it's anti-feminist. Even Alice, who's supposed to be a good fighter, depends completely on her abilities. If they are taken away, she has nothing. The male vampires, however, can still fight without their powers. Also, she goes into super-depressed mode when her boyfriend dumps her. That's understandable. But how long does she stay there? Over four months. That is ridiculous. And the only thing to raise her out of her depression is having another guy obsessing over her. What is this constant need for a man in her life? Even on her free time, what does she do? She happily cooks and cleans for her father, who sits on the đi văng watching football, drinking beer, cleaning his gun. How is this not anti-feminist? In Harry Potter, however, Hermione is very capable, and Harry and Ron would not have made it to the end of the series if it weren't for her. They depend on her just as much as she depends on them. Ginny is also a very capable girl. She can fight for herself, she doesn't need a man constantly looking after her. In fact, all the Harry Potter females are just as capable as the males are. Also, when Ron leaves Hermione in Deathly Hallows, she becomes very upset, but she moves on. She never really gets over it, but she moves on with her life. She realizes it is not the end of the world, and if she hadn't gotten her act together, Voldemort may not have been defeated. When Harry leaves Ginny, she is upset, but doesn't go suicidal about it. She moves on, she continues to treat her Những người bạn right, she moves on.

One final note now. I want to go over messages. In Twilight, there are no good messages. If there are, please name one and then use evidence! Do not just make claims. But as of this point, I have not found one single good message of Twilight. And no, "stalking is hot" does NOT count as a good message, and neither does "if bạn do not have a man in your life, there is not point in living". "Pedophilia is okay as long as bạn have an excuse" doesn't count either. In Harry Potter, there are good messages weaved in all over the place. There are messages about what fear can do to people, how fear can easily turn into hatred hoặc ignorance. There are messages about how tình yêu is the most powerful thing in the world. There are messages about friendship, about life, about death, about working hard, about greed, about loss, and especially about growing up.

I could go on, but I'm getting tired now. I think I've made my point. Remember, this is just my opinion. I backed up my opinion with evidence so that it could become a strong argument, and anyone is free to disagree. Just no hating please. HARRY POTTER RULES!!!!!!!! XD
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The two Bellas: Bellatrix Lestrange from Harry Potter and Bella thiên nga from Twilight are being compared. These are 50 reasons why I think Bellatrix beats Bella.


1: Most important: Helena Bonham Carts vs. Kristen Stewart... is there really any competition??
2. When people act as if Bellatrix is incapable of doing certain things, it just makes her fight harder. When people act as if Bella is incapable of doing certain things, she becomes all depressed.
3. Bellatrix is exceedingly loyal. For a time, Bella couldn't choose WHO to be loyal to (Edward hoặc Jacob)
4. Bellatrix went into Azkaban for--what...
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Great:
Wizard-on-wizard combat in the films
Writing battle scenes was never Rowling’s strongest suit, but her fight scenes became electric on the screen, thêm hoặc less literally: The effect when two thrown spells locked in mid-air is particularly splashy and creative, with the clash of energy throwing off heavy, wet detritus that looks like paint. Scenes like the Battle For Hogwarts at the end of the series, the Ministry Of Magic showdown in Order Of The Phoenix (with good and evil wizards zipping around as light and dark clouds, and the sense that thêm action was...
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Lesson 1: PROPS!!! Lots and lots of props!




Harrypotterlurvfeverweasley_ravenclar-granger gave me các điểm thưởng for my comments:
“Hi I really like the way bạn verbally attack Twilight fans. The way bạn threatened their lives bởi tracking down their IP address and sending them cryptic letter describing how you’re going to kidnap them in their sleep and dismember them limb bởi limb was so cool. Don’t worry; I’ll have your back if they call the police. I know you’re totally justified because I hate that book too.”


Cullenlife_number1fan_forks gave me các điểm thưởng for my articles:
“Hey, that wasn’t fair,...
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YOU MUST KNOW THAT I DON'T AGREE WITH ALL OF THESE POINTS


Okay, SO many people are saying that Harry Potter is better than Twilight. That’s SO not true!
Twilight is a timeless tale of love, then tình yêu Mất tích and found again. It shows how tình yêu can get bạn through everything. It’s such a sweet story about the things people do for love, like Bella goes all the way to Italy to save Edward from the Volturi, for instance.
Also, Twilight is MUCH thêm creative, I mean, Stephenie Meyer created a new kind of Vampire, instead of just using a stereotypical, Dracula type Vampire. I mean, they sparkle, how...
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1) Sperm are living cells that need to be reproduced. If bạn have been dead for a hundred years such as Edward Cullen your sperm would be LONG dead. Also sperm needs protein, something Edwards body has no need for. If Edward has no sperm, how did he conceive Renessme?

2) 23 and 24 chromosomes does not produce a healthy off spring. Nessie either had a genetic disorder would of died.

3) If Jasper shouldn't of been around people why did he go to school. The Cullen family lived in the middle of no where. I'm sure they could...
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First of all, Harry Potter has suspense and is not entirely predictable. How many of bạn thought Quirrell was the bad guy in Philosopher's Stone instead of Snape? Not many, I think. How many of bạn thought Sirius Black was evil in Prisoner of Azkaban? A lot. Now that my point is made, I'll ask bạn this: how many of bạn knew Bella thiên nga would choose Edward instead of Jacob? Possibly thêm than a half of bạn if not ninety percent. Twilight is very predictable.

On that note, I'll say that Harry Potter has a very complex plot, spun together bởi interesting events unlike Twilight, where the only events...
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How come moody see through the invisibility áo choàng in 4th năm when it was supposed to be one of the Hallows.

How come all the order members apparate inside the hog’s head when the air around was supposed to become thick and Harry was not able to disparate from there.

One supplementary, also on the same night when children were evacuated from Hogwarts, how can they disparate all the children (again the same reason for not being apparating according to me.)

Why Dumbledore’s wand was not snapped in two when he was buried as it was tradition in wizards to snap the wand...
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Avatar is the highest-grossing film of all-time, with a global gross of almost $2.8 billion, and ten films have grossed in excess of $1 billion. All the films presented here have had a theatrical run in the last twenty years, and films that have not played during this period do not appear in the chart due to ticket-price inflation, population size and ticket purchasing trends not being considered. Gone with the Wind—first released in 1939—has earned $3.3 billion globally when adjusted to contemporary prices, making it the best all-time performer at the box office.[10] The most represented...
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Yeah, I know there's already one of these in this club, but I'm going to do another one. :)
Just a few points on certin parts of Twilight.

Bella Swan-
Oh dear me, Bella Swan. When one says her name, what comes to your mind? A young heroine? A clumsy sweetheart? hoặc perhaps a useless idiot?
For me, the latter comes to my head. I don't like Bella as a person, and feel she is lacking in certin qualities I admire in the hero of a story. But, why should the main character be a good person in order for the storyline to be good? I myself, am a huge người hâm mộ of the Harry Potter books, do not like Harry himself...
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Twilight hoặc Harry Potter? That's all I see here. And here are some "reasons" each of us came up with.
NOTE: I'm a HP fan, nothing against Twilight though.

Twilight
•Edward is hot.
ME: Umm...not really to me...wait..books hoặc movies?
•JK Rowling failed at love.
ME: Lily Evans gave her life for Harry, and lots more.
•It has a tình yêu triangle.
ME: Well...HP has tình yêu triangles too. Hermione, Lavender, Ron. Harry, Ginny, Cho. Cho, Harry, Cedric. Severus, Lily, James. And LOADS more.
•Harry Potter is only about a fairy tale. It has a boy who raises a stick in the air and never dies.
ME: Well...vampires...
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People keep on saying that Bella has no flaws. What about being clumsy? They also say that she's codependent, and she's anti-feminist. Aren't those flaws?

I just don't get why people say that Bella has no flaws, yet at the same time, they point out her flaws.


Also, they say that the Twilight sách have no plot. Please tell me why they have no plot.

Twilight: Bella meets Edward. They fall in tình yêu and Bella meets the parents. James smells Bella and wants to kill her. Edward eventually kills Bella and reverses the vampire transformation.

New Moon: Edward leaves Bella. Jacob is apparently a werewolf....
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