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By Samantha Highfill June 10, 2020 at 08:00 AM EDT


Warning: This bài viết contains spoilers from the final season of 13 Reasons Why.

"Choose to live." That's the message Clay delivers to the members of his senior class at their high school graduation in 13 Reasons Why, and it's also, in many ways, the message of the show. No matter what high school throws at you, no matter how dark it gets, choose to live. Although not everyone gets the choice.

In the series' final episode, Clay (Dylan Minnette) is forced to say goodbye to his brother when Justin (Brandon Flynn) dies. It's the last heartbreak Clay endures before getting out of town, with Tony (Christian Navarro) bởi his side, in the final shot of the series.

EW spoke with Minnette about ending the series, Justin's death, and that creepy mirror scene.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: After playing Clay for four years, was it difficult to say goodbye and shed that character?

DYLAN MINNETTE: It was. Going into season 4, I always talked to [showrunner] Brian Yorkey about how I wanted to see Clay in therapy with Dr. Ellman. Even back in episode 2 of the hiển thị his name was mentioned for seeing Clay in the past. I said, "I want to see him in therapy in season 4, and I want to take a deep dive into how deep the mental struggles that Clay deals with, how deep they go." So naturally, knowing that Brian loves to push me, I knew that it would most likely end up being an extremely difficult season, and it turns out it was. Especially because every other season takes place over the course of like two weeks and it's every ngày of the week, but this season takes place over the course of about six months and there's only 10 episodes, so every episode just focuses on one major event and there's not really much filler. For that reason, there ends up being a major event for Clay in every episode. I'd open every script and be like, "Okay we're doing this. I hope I can pull it off." [Laughs] Season 4 was the most difficult season to shoot for that reason.

One of the biggest reasons I think season 4 felt so different is because Clay wasn't diễn xuất as the glue holding everyone together for once.

Yeah, because Clay's sort of the wild card this season. Everyone's worried about what he's going to do. And everything that he feels extreme guilt over throughout the course of the entire series is catching up to him and hitting him harder than it ever has. That's true.

The internet is already having a field ngày with that creepy mirror moment.

[Laughs] I know. There's always something that catches on over the first weekend of the hiển thị being out. A lot of people think it's FaceApp hoặc edited, and it's actually not. Even my girlfriend was like, "That's not edited? You've never made that face." I don't know what happened hoặc how, I did like one take of it and it ended up being so creepy.

When bạn all announced the premiere ngày for season 4, there was that super-emotional bàn read video. Did bạn find out how the hiển thị was ending at the bàn read, hoặc did bạn know beforehand?

We knew someone was going to die in this season, we just didn't know who. They really kept it under wraps until we were about to get the last two scripts. There was a lot of speculation going around, but I didn't read how any of it unfolded until the bàn read, and I'd never done that before. I feel like everyone did that. It really made for a very emotional experience, đọc it all together. Brandon and I were losing it quite a bit tiếp theo to each other. I remember sort of hoping that the feeling that it made us feel in the bàn read would translate on screen, because it felt really honest and raw. We were kind of just reacting to it.

What was the last scene bạn shot?

It was brilliantly scheduled because the last three days of shooting were all the hospital scenes, and we finished with Justin's death. And it just sort of all came to us when it was happening. I remember in that final scene with Brandon and I in the hospital, Brian, who was directing, came in. We'd already done a couple takes and then he came in and said, "Okay, so this is the last scene bạn will ever shoot together, and rolling…" And then we just did the take and I think they used the entirety of that whole take. It was very, very emotional.

I think I had the same reaction much of the internet had, which was "NOT JUSTIN!"

[Laughs] I know. I remember all season Brandon and I were specifically hoping that it would be Justin, and we were pushing for it and we would plead to Brian making the case of why we feel like it should be him, because he and I both felt that it would have the biggest emotional impact on the series được trao Justin's entire arc. Of course it's devastating and tragic and we know that people would tình yêu to see him survive, but I think that's what makes it all the thêm powerful. Obviously it's the most depressing di chuyển the hiển thị could make, but I feel like it's also in line with the hiển thị to make that choice in the last episode, to make the most devastating choice. It feels really poetic because the biggest arc of a relationship that Clay has had in the hiển thị is with Justin. The first conversation bạn see Clay have with anyone in the very first episode is with Justin, and it's actually Clay's first lines of the show. They're clearly enemies in season 1, and then it goes all the way to them loving each other thêm than anyone and becoming brothers and holding his hand on his deathbed. It's also the last conversation between Clay and any of the students — it's in Clay's head, but the college essay scene. It feels like the perfect bookend because the finale sort of feels like the story of Justin and the first episode did because he was the first tape. I feel like it was a strong choice to make and as devastating as it is, I am so happy that Brian ended up making the decision to do it because it just felt right. If we were going to do it to anyone, I feel like we needed to go there and put the bookend on it.

That college essay scene destroyed me.

The college essay scene gets me the most when I watch it, without fail, and I think the reason is because all Clay ever wanted to be, throughout the entire course of the series, was somebody's positive influence, in particularly Hannah's. He's had to deal with the guilt and grief of never being able to be that for her, and it's all he ever wanted. He always has wanted to be a hero and always wanted to save someone and to be the positive influence in their life, and he has failed spectacularly many times. He's also succeeded sometimes, but never in the way he wants, and it's sort of been the downfall of him. But in the end, hearing from Justin, the person he loves most, that he was his brother and his positive influence, I think that's why watching it I'm so happy with the decision and it gets me every time. I'm really proud of the ending for that reason because I feel like there's a lot of perfect full-circle moments.

I also want to get your thoughts on the final shot of the series. I liked the choice to have the scene be completely wordless. I felt like I was watching Tony and Clay just exhale.

Yep, that was exactly the point. And I remember đọc the script at the bàn read and being like, "Oh, this is the perfect ending." Because in the first episode there's the same exact mirrored shot of Clay and Tony in the giống ngựa rừng ở mể tây cơ, mustang driving through town wordless. I remember đọc that and being like, "I hope Brian intends for that to be the same shot as that one in the first episode," and of course it was. I tình yêu that there was no big driving-away shot hoặc âm nhạc crescendo. It was just this wordless moment of them, yeah, exhaling and leaving town. And bạn see it on their faces. I tình yêu the way it ended. Also, for me specifically, I get really excited about certain needle drops in the hiển thị hoặc âm nhạc moments. Back in season 1, Brian and I had sent an email to Arcade ngọn lửa, chữa cháy to get "Keep the Car Running" for episode 2, and we couldn't get it. They didn't do many shows at the time. But the last song that plays before the credits, right before the moment of silence in the car, is an Arcade ngọn lửa, chữa cháy song, "Half Light II." It's one of my yêu thích songs of all time, so I'm so happy with how the last five phút of that entire finale played out.
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