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Supernatural Do bạn believe in the supernatural? (the phenomenon not the show...)

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Yes
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Not sure, maybe...
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No
   13%
 thedemonchild posted hơn một năm qua
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mtoll4 picked Yes:
I KNOW there is something out there ;)
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ilovemichael picked Not sure, maybe...:
I believe in God and angels I dont know if that counts as supernatural
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thedemonchild picked Yes:
Well, it isn't included (by modern science) as "nature" so I'd say its supernatural. "dictionary.com gave this definition: su·per·nat·u·ral[soo-per-nach-er-uhl/ -nach-ruhl] –adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or being above or beyond what is natural; unexplainable by natural law or phenomena; abnormal.
2. of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or attributed to God or a deity.
3. of a superlative degree; preternatural: a missile of supernatural speed.
4. of, pertaining to, or attributed to ghosts, goblins, or other unearthly beings; eerie; occult.
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Samanddean07 picked Yes:
Of course i live in a bloody ghost ridden house
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Lunaste picked No:
Nope, I think there is nothing 'out there'.
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thedemonchild picked Yes:
I think it's amazing that people can believe anything else; I mean to believe that all there is to know about nature is already known...
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Lunaste picked No:
I don't believe that everything already is discovered.
There is a difference between things that can be logically explained or researched and believing in unseen forces controlling aspects of life.

I don't know, I might be wrong, but things that can be proven sound a hell of a lot more believable to me.
I'll save my faith for, I don't know, believing in myself and the people I know? I prefer to take my life into my own hands and not blame supernatural entities for things that happened to me and not praise them for things I have accomplished myself (one of my biggest pet peeves: celebrities thanking god for awards they received. COME ON, YOU earned that award, with YOUR efforts, not because some god took some time out of his busy schedule to arrange it so that you could get an award. It's similarily making yourself a whole lot more important than you are and it's an insult to talent).
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thedemonchild picked Yes:
I don't think it's healthy to use a belief in the supernatural as an emotional crutch, but as far as proven facts are concerned scientific opinion changes all the time. Years ago everybody "knew" that the sun revolved around the earth, for example. Also I learned at school that energy cannot be created or destroyed merely transferred (physics) I believe that the energy (or soul/spirit/essence) of a person has to go somewhere after physical death; I'm not suggesting that there are demons and angels out there influencing all our actions (though I'm not refuting it either) I'm just suggesting that there is a huge universe out there of which we know relatively little - I think the odds are in favour of there being things which cannot be explained in terms of our 5 senses or scientific "fact" (i.e. what I would term the supernatural)
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Lunaste picked No:
When I see the word 'supernatural' I think of 'unseen forces' or 'powers'.

It's true that centuries (not years) ago people thought completely different things, but science is not set in stone.
Besides, people back then didn't have the advanced technology we have now. Perhaps in centuries from now we'll finally discover what happens when you die (nothing, I think). I go along with the theory that explains things that happen satisfactorily for me, and belief in supernatural doesn't give me enough explanation. Science does, and that's why I'm sceptical of everything that can't be proven.

(I used to believe in stuff like ghosts and chakras (when I was naive and a little more messed up than now :D) but not anymore)
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VanessaR picked Yes:
Yup i do belive in it
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thedemonchild picked Yes:
When I was younger I almost drowned and had an out of the body experience I think my belief in the soul/spirit began then as my consciousness was definitely outside my body, I believe something similar will happen when I die, so for me it's not too much of a stretch to believe in ghosts...
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Lunaste picked No:
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thedemonchild picked Yes:
Can't seem to follow your link - in fact can't access the N.Y Times site at all. I'm guessing it was something about a dying brain desperately trying to make sense of things? Or lack of oxygen? The thing about relying on proof (which isn't a bad thing, don't get me wrong) is the problem of things we KNOW exist, but which can't be quantified - like the mind; it obviously exists but where? People talk about following their hearts etc. but I would think it's in the brain, it hasn't been found but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It's estimated that we only use a small percentage of our potential brain power; who knows what "supernatural" stuff could be done with the rest of it?
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Lunaste picked No:
No, it's about out-of-body experiences and the feeling that there's a 'presence' in the room.
If a certain area in your brain (angular gyrus) becomes active the way you are situated in space and how you FEEL you are situated in space no longer add up and your brain tries to make up for this difference by feeling like you have an out-of-body experience ('looking down on yourself') or making you feel like there's another presence in the room.

I think that IF there is a mind, or soul, it's located in the brain.

Also, wasn't the 'using only 10% of your brain' theory disproven years ago?
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thedemonchild picked Yes:
So how does that account for people who have out-of-body experiences and can describe what was happening elsewhere or have a near death experience and return to consciousness knowing of the death of somebody who'd died meanwhile? Or remote viewing?

The latest case study by De Ridder et al. (2007) conceptually reproduces the work of Blanke and his associates. The study involves a 63-year-old male patient being treated for tinnitus by way of electrodes implanted in the area over the temporal-parietal junction. When the right side of his brain was electrically stimulated through the electrodes, the patient experienced a sensation that gave him the impression that his self had separated from his body, moving to a location just behind and to the left of his body. He did not, however, report taking the perspective of his separated “out-of-body” self (i.e., he was still seeing his surroundings from within his own body), nor did he report seeing an image of his own body. On average, the patient’s sensation of leaving the body lasted about 17 seconds, and no changes in his state of consciousness occurred during them. Brain scans using positron-emission tomography (PET) revealed widespread activity in the area around the temporal-parietal junction, near the angular gyrus.

Although the study by De Ridder et al. does provide useful supplementary data on the function of the temporal-parietal junction labeling the patient’s induced sensation as an OBE is something of a misnomer. As noted, the patient did not perceive his surroundings from outside his body, nor did he report seeing his own body, suggesting that his sensations did not take on the classic structure of an OBE. The patient’s separated self was always stationary, and could not be moved voluntarily, whereas people often report being able to move about freely in their out-of-body form in natural OBEs.

Similar arguments can be made about the induced OBE-like sensation in Blanke et al.’s epileptic patients. A close look at their experiences reveals illusory features (e.g., perceiving distortions of the body and shadowy figures) that are not commonly found in natural OBEs and are more suggestive of hallucinations. Thus, the features of naturally occurring OBEs in healthy people and the OBE-like experiences in these epileptic patients can be considered different, and may not be easily comparable. Some attempt has recently been made to artificially induce similar OBE-like perceptions of the body in healthy people, although this has been through the use of virtual reality (Ehrsson, 2007; Lenggenhager et al., 2007), which again does not allow for direct comparisons. Perhaps most central of all, the findings of Blanke et al. and De Ridder et al. still cannot adequately account for ESP-related OBEs in which individuals describe people and events at a distance that are later verified as accurate (Alvarado, 2000, pp. 199 – 200; Tart, 1998), nor can they account for the successful results of studies where some aspect of the OBE was “detected” using physical and animal detectors (Morris et al., 1978; Osis & McCormick, 1980). In the case of Blanke et al., the EEG findings of Tart (1998) and others (Alvarado, 2000, pp. 189 – 190) have yet to be incorporated into their theoretical considerations as to their possible role [4]. In short, while these recent mainstream studies go a way in advancing our knowledge about brain areas involved in body perception, they still have miles to go in adequately explaining complex OBEs.
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thedemonchild picked Yes:
Sorry, forgot to credit source: link
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kirstyyx picked Yes:
i do kind of believe it but when i proply see something or feel something like supernatural that that cant be explained thats when ill fully believe!
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tazoulini picked Yes:
I'm a believer as far as spirits ghosts and weird supernatural stuff,but not in god angels or the devil..
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shomill picked Not sure, maybe...:
Demons and angels exist, but ghosts, vampires, stuff like that, they're just myths.
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jodith picked Not sure, maybe...:
Agree with Shomill,i mean Angels&Demon Are real but Vampire,shapeShiffter dont think so..
Ghost i guess i dont know i think i AM???
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thedemonchild picked Yes:
I think that open mindedness is the only rational approach to any and all phenomena :o)
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josch picked Not sure, maybe...:
Let me put it this way: I want to believe in the supernatural, but I'm also a very skeptical person. I only believe in things that I can see, so unless I don't experience a paranormal phenomena at first hand one day, I remain unconvinced that the supernatural does indeed exist.
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twilighter4evr picked Yes:
i watch Paranormal State and I believe what I see like houses being haunted by spirits & people having exorcisms on the show because of demons.
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Kiniko90 picked No:
Hell no!
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