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posted by SpeedyGonzalez
I, SpeedyGonzalez did NOT write this. I just merely copyed and pasted it.

Ah, yes, Stephenie Meyer, tác giả of the Twilight series. My opinion of her, from the way that she has presented herself to the public in interviews and such, is that she is a whiny, self absorbed woman with the mind of a 13 năm old. She can't deal with criticism because it hurts her delicate little feelings, and believes that she is an amazing writer and that her story and characters are somehow superior to those seen in the works of people such as Jane Austen and William Shakespeare. Here's one statement that shows that she is both infantile and unable to handle criticism:

"I will state, for the record, that my queries truly sucked, and I don't blame anyone who sent me a rejection (I did get seven hoặc eight of those. I still have them all, too). The only rejection that really hurt was from a small agent who actually read the first chapter before she dropped the axe on me. The meanest rejection I got came after Little, Brown had picked me up for a three-book deal, so it didn't bother me at all. I'll admit that I considered sending back a copy of that rejection stapled to the write-up my deal got in Publisher's Weekly, but I took the higher road."

You're a saint, Meyer. I tình yêu the way that she says "meanest rejection." Did they say that the book was riddled with purple prose and Mary Sues and was a superficial piece of crap that promoted and glorified stalking and abusive relationships? Because that's not being mean; that's a fact. She sounds so childish there! "Oh, those big meanies, rejecting my book and criticising it as publishers have every right to do!" If bạn write a book and send it to a publisher, bạn are putting it out there to be judged. Getting negative feedback is to help bạn improve, not make bạn sit and whine about how mean they are. In all honesty, Meyer, look at your sách and how they are written. That is not good nghề viết văn and that is a fact. I'm sure that their "mean rejection" was just them giving an honest and truthful opinion.

Let's examine Meyer's narcissism and hypocrisy.

"I don't think my sách qualify to be Oprah books. I think bạn have to take on bigger issues than Vampire/Werewolf tình yêu to make her interested. I don't have any incest, adultery, spousal abuse, mental disease, molestation, anorexia, suicide, cutting, etc. Which is why I won't ever get the Printz award either."

Yes, Meyer, that's why bạn won't get any of those awards. Because they're about ma cà rồng and werewolves. It's like she's trying to tell herself that she's completely worthy of these awards but won't get them because it's "fantasy." Somehow, she thinks she's deserving of these things. Also, Meyer, are bạn saying that none of those things are in your books? Incest? Well, not directly, but those step-siblings are married, and Meyer did say that the girls who get imprinted upon see the guy as a family member. Adultery? Bella cheated on Edward with Jacob in Eclipse, and Sam left Leah for her cousin. Spousal Abuse? Bella and Edward's relationship. Need I say more? If I do, too bad, I'm nghề viết văn about that later. Mental Disease? Quite frankly, I am convinced that almost every character in this series possesses mental diseases. Molestation? Hmmm... Jacob forcing himself on Bella? Those poor children that are imprinted upon? Anorexia? Not really, because Bella is basically described as being not fat but not anorexic. Suicide? Uh, gee, New Moon, anyone? Bella doing crazy suicidal stunts to hear Edward's voice. That could also come under mental disease. Cutting? Not really, but Bella does get hurt pulling all of those suicidal stunts. I guess what I'm trying to say is: bạn will not win those awards, not because bạn don't have all of those themes, believe us, they're in there, but because bạn suck.

If that's not proof enough for bạn that Meyer is a self absorbed narcissist so up herself that she believes awards would be handed to her if only she wrote about the above issues, bạn should take a look at what she thinks of other much thêm talented authors.

Tw Staff: đọc Twilight it came to me the story of Westley and Buttercup. Is Bella and Edward's tình yêu True tình yêu like theirs?

Stephenie: Actually Bella and Edward's tình yêu story is better than them. When I was in college, I wrote a lot of papers from a feminine perspective (it's an easy way to write)

Ah, yes, the easy way out!

on the Princess Bride. Buttercup is an idiot

HOLY SHIT. No, bạn didn't. Also, this is coming from the person who has Bella as their narrator and protagonist.

and it doesn't bother anyone, all that matters is that she's beautiful,

Buttercup hated being beautiful. I don't think bạn read the book, Meyer, because the fact that Buttercup hates being beautiful is made very clear. She deliberately tries to make herself uglier and wants people to see her for her mind. She says this. A lot.

at the end she became a little thêm smart, but the female characters are very weak in that story. Westley is Công chúa tóc xù and smart and fights, Buttercup is just beautiful , it's her only thing, her brain means nothing, her personality means nothing to him, they have the kind of tình yêu where they can't live without each other. It's not a great example to me,

Actually, Westley was the only one who loved Buttercup for her personality and not her beauty. That's one of the reasons that she loved him. Weak female characters with big, strapping men to rescue them WHERE HAVE I READ THAT BEFORE. It sure as hell wasn't in The Princess Bride.

I couldn't find one who was a really good comparison to me,

You're not narcissistic at all. *sarcasm*

I mean, Elizabeth Bennet and Mr.Darcy is pretty good, except bạn should think that if either one of them dies the other one will carry on bravely,

Well, what do bạn want them to do Meyer? Go all New Moon on everyone's asses? Mope around for months on end, ignoring the people who tình yêu them and pulling crazy, suicidal and incredibly selfish stunts. This is how it works in real life, even if it is true love. bạn do carry on bravely because that's what they would have wanted and what else are bạn supposed to do?

and Romeo and Juliet were kind of idiots, they didn't know each other very well.

NO. WAI. That's the whole point. Shakespeare was being all satirical. Do bạn know that word, Meyer? SA-TI-RI-CAL. Yes, it's a big word, isn't it?

And Anne Of Green Gables and Gilbert Blythe, but they are much thêm like Jacob and Bella, they're friends,they get on the nerves of each other a lot. I didn't find out yet a Bella and Edward tình yêu story that really satisfied me that way.

She just fails at literature. She completely misunderstood the point of The Princess Bride and Romeo & Juliet. She misunderstood it so badly that I don't even think that she really read it. I think she sort of skimmed it then made up bits as she went along. It's like she thinks she's above these people. Goldman, Austen and Shakespeare were amazingly talented writers with wonderful characters. Austen, who lived in the time when wimmens were in the kitchen, had stronger female role người mẫu than Meyer. Meyer criticises things that are only problems in her books. And how egotistical must bạn be to think that your characters and "love" story are better than those of these amazing people. At least Shakespeare intended Romeo & Juliet to be a satire on teenage lust. Meyer makes it out to be srs bsns.

Now, let's see how Meyer reacts to being asked a câu hỏi that she doesn't like:

"The worst I can remember happened at my appearance in Toronto. A girl (who must have sat in line all ngày to get the ghế, chỗ ngồi she had) asked during the Q&A how I could write such an antifeminist main character and if I wasn't ashamed of myself for letting young girls read my misogynist works. I don't get that. I mean, I've gotten that câu hỏi from reporters and seen it online various places, and I think I can defend myself ably. What I don't get is why bạn would come out to a signing for an tác giả bạn hated, let alone stand out in the cold all ngày to get in. People are odd."

Well, did bạn answer her question? It's a perfectly good question. She went through all of that trouble because she wanted to know why, and she wanted to hear it from you. How else was she supposed to get an answer to her question? Honestly, I think a lot of us haters would tình yêu to meet Meyer and ask her why she has written the things that she has, and she's an awfully hard person to meet. It's not like we're going to get an answer from an email because of Seth deleting all of the criticism to help increase both of their already inflated egos. How dare bạn call the girl weird and imply that she is an idiot when all she wanted was a real explanation from you.

Meyer appears quite horrible at her book signings. Apparently all she says are things like "Thankyou" as she just assumes that people are praising her and can't be bothered listening to them. When she does listen, she gives an answer of one hoặc two words. Compare this to Rowling who listens closely and responds appropriately with at least two coherent sentences. Rowling pwns this woman in so many ways.

Speaking of Rowling pwning Meyer...

What has Meyer done with her money? She has made tonnes of money. Rowling has được trao to many charities for the poor, children, cancer, and much more. The profits for her three companion sách went to charities. Meyer has được trao to... uh... well... Oh, there's this woman with cancer that she's raising money to help! She has a project called "Save the Book Babe."

"One of my dear Những người bạn and mentors, Faith Hochhalter - a truly gifted book buyer who put together some of my most successful events - was recently diagnosed with breast cancer."

I'm not saying that the "book babe" Faith doesn't deserve this. I'm saying that it's nice to know that to get Meyer to lend bạn a hand with all her money and influence, bạn just have to be a close, personal friend whose helped her first. It's nice what you're doing for your friend, Meyer, but there are other people who need help just as much as she does, even more. I know that if I had as much money as you, I would have được trao to at least one charity, and if I were as famous, I would have promoted every damn charity that exists.

Another thing that I dislike about Meyer is that she really does appear to be in tình yêu with her characters to the point where it is incredibly creepy. It's okay, as an author, to think of your characters as your children. bạn really shouldn't though, because they are supposed to be tools used to create your story. But, after all, bạn created them and they've been with bạn while bạn write all about them and their lives. But Meyer's just plain creepy about her characters. Here's what Robert Pattinson (Edward in the Twilight movies) has to say:

"...when I read [Twilight], it seemed like I was convinced Stephenie was convinced she was Bella and it was like it was a book that wasn't supposed to be published. It was like đọc her sexual fantasy, especially when she đã đưa ý kiến it was based on a dream and it was like, 'Oh I've had this dream about this really sexy guy,' and she just writes this book about it. Some things about Edward are so specific, I was just convinced - I was like, 'This woman is mad. She's completely mad and she's in tình yêu with her own fictional creation.'"

This is just one of the reasons why I tình yêu you, Rob. Not only does he realise that Meyer just made her wet dream into a book and that Bella is a Mary Sue, but he also sees how weird she is when it comes to her characters. What? bạn aren't convinced that Meyer's in tình yêu with the male characters that she dreamed up?

"I think one of the most frustrating things about my confident, self-assured husband is that he is not in the least bit threatened bởi my devotion to Edward and Jacob, though I have told him many times that if either one of them showed up at the door, I would leave without looking back. Pancho just grins and says, "You do that, Steph."

Nope, from the above Meyer quote, it's an toàn, két an toàn to say she isn't in tình yêu with them at all. It seems like Pancho (heh, nice nickname) is either indulging Meyer bởi treating her like she's a child whose saying that they'd run away to tham gia the circus if the clowns came a-knocking, hoặc he's just really hoping that they'll come and take this crazy woman away from him, preferably killing her. Sorry, Pancho, they're "vegetarian." Anyway, I believe it's the former. It sounds like he treats her the way Edward treats Bella - like the whiny little children that they act like. And who abandons their loving husband (he might not be, it would explain her wet dreams) and children for those two jerks?

Let's take a look at one last Meyer incident where she proves herself to be a fail. For Halloween 2008, tác giả Lauren Myracle decided to challenge some fellow Young Adult writers to do something that scares them bởi Halloween.

Let it be known, on this 27th ngày of October, 2008, that I challenge the following 13 authors to a Halloween Scare-A-Thon:

M.T. Anderson
cây ô rô, hoa huệ, holly Black
Libba Bray
Meg Cabot
Cassandra Clare
Melissa De La Cruz
John Green
Shannon Hale
Maureen Johnson
Stephenie Meyer
Kirsten Miller
Sarah Mlynowski
Scott Westerfeld


Stephenie didn't participate. Why?

Lauren "received a very nice note from one of her peeps saying she's taking a well-deserved break from media and won't be able to participate in the dare."

Taking a well deserved break from the media? It was just a group of YA writers partaking in some Halloween fun. They would face a fear of theirs and post a video of it on their blog. Where is the media involved in this? It was just pointless fun! It gives me the impression that she thinks she's too good to do something like this, hoặc that she's too much of a wimp. Both, actually, as evidence suggests that she is. Also the note was from "one of her peeps." She couldn't even be bothered to send the letter herself.

Thus concludes the first part of my explanation as to why Stephenie Meyer sucks. bạn don't really need a một giây part as I'm sure that bạn all hate her enough bởi now, but I'mma write it anyway. The một giây part will discuss her and Seth's attitude in relation to people, including fans, who have criticism for Breaking Dawn and her poor reaction to Midnight Sun being leaked.
posted by DivyaHarry
The Cullens are weird. Not in a vampiric sense but in common sense. They are trying to stay camouflaged but they keep failing. Lets review, shall we?

1. They go to high school over and over again. They try to blend in with the other non-sparkly, non-Adonis(y), non-vampiry and nonsensical humans. Aside from this, they pout in the cafeteria during lunch hour. Why? They could just eat their lunch elsewhere. They don't eat, so it's unlikely that no one has noticed them not eating.

2. High school is a crowded place. People keep bumping into each other at some point. Let's say the Cullens are very...
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I see a lot of Twiight những người hâm mộ arguing the same points over and over again, and frankly, they have no idea what they're talkinng about.

First I'd like to point out:

Some Twilight những người hâm mộ are saying that they are confused with Harry Potter because they haven't read the sách and the phim chiếu rạp don't explain clearly enough. Well, guess what, that does not make Twilight better than Harry Potter, it is not out fault bạn haven't read Harry Potter. When we argue Harry Potter vs. Twilight I was under the impression that we were including both sách and movies, not just the movies. So the fact that your confused...
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I suspect I'm not the only one, am I? XD...... Anyways, bạn know you're obsessed with Bellatrix when....
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1. bạn throw away all of your hairbrushes.

2. bạn wear at least some black every day.

3. bạn rip your clothes on purpose.

4. bạn call people bạn don't like "filthy mudbloods".

5. bạn yell "CRUCIO!" at people when bạn get mad.

6. bạn carry knives on your person

7. Your desktop background and screensaver are of Bellatrix.

8. Whenever you're typing a word that starts with a "B" hoặc an "L", bạn accidentally type out a Bellatrix hoặc a Lestrange instead.

9. bạn think her birthday should...
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I found this online. It's a real conversation a bookstore employee apparently had with a Twilight fan. It didn't happen to me. I found it funny, thought bạn guys might too.

(A customer in her late teens approaches me in the bookstore.)
Customer: “Hey, do bạn guys sell the Twilight books?”
Me: “Yes, they’re right over there.”
Customer: “Have bạn read them?”
Me: “Yes, I have.”
Customer: “Didn’t bạn just tình yêu them?!”
Me: “Well, actually, they aren’t really my type of book, so–”
Customer: *suddenly furious* “Are bạn f***ing serious?! These are the best sách ever written! I’m going to tell Edward to come and bite bạn and drink all your blood!”
Me: *backing away* “Have a nice day, ma’am…”
posted by ilovereading
I was thinking about difference in Harry Potter and Twilight background and this is what I concluded. Enjoy!

Knowledge of magical beings not soo very far from their backyards
Harry Potter: As I can get from HP sách and The Tales of Beedle the Bard, wizarding world was known to Muggles, but because of witch hunt and victims of it in both sides, wizard decided to go underground and not to be commonly know to people. They don`t use spells in front of Muggles and if sombody does manage to discover their secret, they erase their memory.
However, there are exeptions. Families of Mugle-borns ofcourse...
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posted by june13
were are bạn harry asked ron over here can't bạn see me am right in front of you.
no i cant see bạn it's so drak a cat even could not see in here.

hah ron very funny, lets try to find a light swicht for bạn can see.
ron i found one. well then turn it one then
i am don't worry

boo am going to suck your owls blood.
right then the sun came toungt the window and then edward begin to spark

look harry this vamiper sparks how sad is that.

ron is he waring girls cothing
yay i think he is

no am not but am in tình yêu with a human girl

harry and ron at the same time laghed them selfed silly

and that's the end of this fine story
THIS IS JUST MY PERSONALL OPINION, FEEL FREE TO DISAGREE, THIS IS JUST WHAT I THINK, NOT THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF TWILIGHT FANS. SO PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION!!!!!!

Thank you.

Just so bạn know, this is a Twilight người hâm mộ speaking.

Twilight may NOT be the best book ever, i didnt say that it was (keep that in mind), when i read it, i saw alot of flaws, like in breaking dawn, Meyer made it clear that vamps cant inject sperm, and yet, somehow Bella got pregnant. I've read this bài viết bởi XDRoseLuvsHP, and i totaly agree. I believe that People like Twilight thêm thatn HP because it...
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For all of bạn who don't know this, but I am an ex-Twilight fan. This my own personal opinion based on my personal experience with the series. For all of the Twilight những người hâm mộ who may be đọc this right now, bạn have been warned. So here I go:

When in the course of normal, non-brainwashed leader events, it becomes necessary to dissolve the addiction of the highly “popular” teen-craving novel which have been oppressive to the efforts to differentiate the normal and the abnormal fantaisie to which people, generally females, dreamed of, decent respect to the creativity based on the author's dream...
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posted by ilovereading
Like a lot of other Antis, I was at first a Twilight fan.

I got into đọc when I was 8 years old. First real book I have read was Harry Potter. Since than, I have read loads of fiction - romance, science fiction, fantasy, historical novels...
I liked some of them and disleked others. With years, I learnd to tell why and found my các sở thích - fantaisie novels.

My friend heard of upcoming Twilight movie, so she decided to read it. She recomended the book to me, so I said: "Heck, why not, it sounds interesing." I borrowed it from school thư viện and read it. I admit, I thought it was great, and I...
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posted by bakura1234
It has a PLOT! It has Subplots.It has several characters with depth.JK is not afraid to sacrifice the good guys. The characters aren't one dementional. JK researches her material, has good use of Latin and history within her books. Spells are named after Latin words and do what the Latin words do. Names of soem characters give hints as to what that character is such as Sirius which means Dog ngôi sao for thêm Albus which means White (pure wizard). bạn can relate Harry Potter to WWII because of similarities bạn could learn some history from the books.
Harry Potter teaches a good deal about prejudice...
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posted by Kersian
Okay this is thêm of an opinion, since my view of the activity is based off opinion.

Now whenever someone posts something on the internet and someone else responds negatively to it, they respond in the same way to that person. In a very negative tone. This is in fact what I see at times in forums.

First Twilight and Harry Potter fans, if bạn post anything on the internet, whether they are opinions hoặc facts, bạn have responsibilities with it. bạn are exposing yourself to others in the internet. bạn are responsible for the positive hoặc negative replies. So don't blame others for your actions....
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