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posted by XDRoseLuvsHP
I've been seeing this câu hỏi a lot lately. Twilight những người hâm mộ don't know what is wrong with Bella. I have written this bài viết in order to try to explain exactly what is wrong with Bella. There are actually many things wrong with her, as I will be explaining in this article.

The first thing I will acknowledge is the mental instability of Bella Swan. In New Moon, Edward dumps her, and she becomes depressed. Now, I understand that it is very disheartening to have your boyfriend dump you. I would be able to understand if she had been depressed for, maybe two weeks? No thêm than a month. But Bella is depressed for several months. This is NOT normal. Bella has serious depression, and I mean the actual mental illness. Her father probably should have taken her to a psychologist. If unattended, depression can lead to suicide. This, however, is not the reason Bella attempts suicide. Later on, she starts hearing Edward's voice in her head. The voice comes whenever she is about to do something reckless. This is a very serious condition called schizophrenia. If bạn know someone with schizophrenia, they should be taken immediately for help. It is this illness that drove Bella to attempt suicide. There is also evidence of her having Narcissistic Personality Disorder (compensatory). This is because she feels a need for attention at all times. In New Moon, as soon as Jacob starts giving her all the attention he has, she felt better. She gropes for attention constantly. It is even arguable that her clumsiness may in fact be a need for attention. She must have an ideal relationship (in her mind), and that is actually a symptom of this disorder. She does not feel for anybody except the Cullens and Jacob. She does not feel for her friends, she does not feel for her parents, she does not feel for anyone unworthy of her attention. She is arrogant and she takes advantage of her friends, then blames them if they don't want to continue the friendship. These are all signs of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and I believe that the compensatory classification fits her best (that is passive-aggressive, with signs of Avoidant Personality Disorder). Avoidant Personality Disorder is another thing Bella may have. She is very sensitive to negative các bình luận about herself and she is extremely inhibited in fear of humiliation (though I still hold my argument of her need for attention). She doesn't talk a lot (though this is not because of shyness, but because she sees most other people as below her) and she definitely uses escapism. This leads to Passive-Aggressive Personality Disorder. She sees everyone else as below her, thinking that her fellow classmates, who went out of their way to welcome her to Forks, are shallow, immature idiots who are not worth her time. She does hint this to them at some points throughout the story. This may also be an explanation as to why she mistreats her friends. She has Histrionic Personality Disorder because of her need for attention and her intense sexual desire for Edward (which is ALL it is. To like someone for only their looks is NOT love) and she does have shallow, over-exaggerated emotions. Another thing Bella shows VERY strong evidence of having is Dependent Personality Disorder. bạn can see this bởi her reaction to Edward dumping her. Her depression arose because of her psychological need for Edward (not to be mistaken for love).

Wow, I even shocked myself bởi how messed up Bella is in her head.

Bella is very shallow. She "loves" Edward because... he's hot. That's it? She never talks about his personality. She only talks about his "liquid topaz eyes", something she's explained only about a few hundred times, amongst other physical appearances. She wants to be a vampire because she wants to be beautiful like Edward. She even admits it herself in Eclipse. That is the strongest reason for her desire for becoming a vampire. That is extremely vain. She thinks that all good people are beautiful. That is a very shallow thought, and it says some pretty nasty things about her sense of judgment (though we all know that is not too good because of all the bad decisions she makes throughout the books).

Bella abuses her friends. She takes them for granted and only talks to them when it will be for her advantage. Here's a common example; Jessica. Jessica welcomes her warmly and adopts her into her group of Những người bạn when Bella first arrives at Forks High School. What does she get in return? Bella thinking how shallow and idiotic she is? Then, Bella doesn't speak to Jessica hoặc anybody else for months after Edward leaves her. Her father threatens to take her to a psychiatrist unless Bella becomes thêm social. That is the only reason she speaks to Jessica again. She goes to the movies, completely tuning Jessica out and ignoring the girl, then goes and puts herself and Jessica in potential danger because she wants to hear Edward's voice. This is selfish and completely stupid. Jessica stays behind with Bella, even though she (just) figured out that Bella has only been using her. So what happens? Bella says that she is a bad friend because she wouldn't talk to Bella again. Where's the logic in that? Don't even get me started on Jacob. She leads him on every other day, even after everything he did for her in New Moon, and then, the ngày after she snogged him, when he is in great physical pain, she dumps him. Yes, she feels sorry for a couple of minutes. She's felt sorry for a couple of phút constantly, then felt that justified her right to use him all over again. She does not care about him, no matter what she claims.

Bella has an extremely undeveloped character. She has no life. What are her hobbies? Can bạn name me just one? No, xe máy, lái xe mô tô, môtô does NOT count. Bella doesn't really like xe máy, lái xe mô tô, môtô and was going to give it up had she not wanted to "please" (more like lead on) Jacob. So... what is there? đọc doesn't count either, I'm afraid. That is another example of Stephenie Meyer telling, but not showing. We only see Bella actually đọc one (1) time throughout the series, and that is very briefly at the very beginning of Eclipse. So we don't have any hobbies for her. Then, she is utterly Mary Sue. Where are her character flaws? No, clumsiness does NOT count as a character flaw. Flawless characters are very bad. They are almost always bound to be an utter fail. Bella is automatically được ưa chuộng when she arrives at school, which is extremely unlikely and unrealistic. She is strikingly beautiful, and she ends up becoming the most beautiful and most "powerful" vampire ever to exist. She doesn't have to work at her special diet; she's a natural! She gets everything handed to her on a silver platter. She works for nothing, she sacrifices nothing. Also, have bạn noticed that her character mô tả fits perfectly into what Stephenie Meyer looks like? Bella is screaming "author self-insert". In Breaking Dawn, it goes into Jacob's POV (point of view). Bella is suddenly found saying "oh, everything will be okay" and with a "life is wonderful!" attitude. Where did that come from? For the entire series, Bella has been the first one to say "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!" Once we go back into Bella's POV, that pessimistic attitude comes right back. So where did the sudden burst of happiness come from?

She is also a very bad parent. She ignores her baby to make tình yêu to Edward. She doesn't care that Jacob uncharacteristically became a pedophile, lusting after her new-born daughter. No, she gets angry because she doesn't like the nickname he gave her; another example of her deadly superficiality. Most of the time, she just gives Renesmee to Jacob to look after. When does she ever do anything to actually take care of Renesmee herself? All she does is come in occasionally to admire the child, then go right back to ignoring her.

So, I hope I've made my point. There are many things wrong with Bella Swan. I hope bạn enjoyed my bài viết :)
This is how I feel about HP vs. Twilight. Twilight những người hâm mộ feel free to state your own opinion but I would prefer no one fights. These are my opinions and everyone is entitled to their own.

I know there are many of these các bài viết on here but this is my own and wanted to share it. Sorry about how long it is! And please excuse any typos!


1. The character have personalities and depth. They grow and change and even minor characters are so complex
-Dobby: Dobby was a house elf that belonged to the Malfoy family. At great risk to himself, he tried to keep Harry from danger bởi attempting to persuade him...
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I DID NOT WRITE THIS. IT IS JUST BEING COPIED AND PASTED.

First of all- Harry Potter isn’t just a childish bedtime story. Nor is it shallow. A story based off a single dream has no depth. Twilight những người hâm mộ will never what kind of man James was before he turned vampire. Rowling, however, spent 15 years planning every little detail. She created a world within our own for her witches and wizards. She has based their heritage off of real mythology and history. Their spells are in a dead language and they have organized governments with strict laws. She has followed her characters’ stories from...
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 Before the twilight những người hâm mộ began a riot at a hot topics.
Before the twilight fans began a riot at a hot topics.
Twilight is a best-selling, Supernatural teen romance series containing the events of a human (Bella), a vampire (Edward), and a werewolf (Jacob)situations in Forks, WA as the sách progress. It has attracted a significantly high fan-base and it's phim chiếu rạp grossed to over $700 million box-office. Much of the saga's acclaims range from young những người hâm mộ of the sách and movies, all the way to the current President of the United States. Such acclaim is also met with the negativity of the public that are against the over-all plots and messages from the saga itself. The conflicts of interests towards the...
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Ok, some of this is opinion, some is fact, so don't critisize it because it is my opinion. And don't be rude in the các bình luận section!

1. If the Cullens are "vampire's" that don't burn in the sun, don't drink blood, young, rich, immortal and beautiful, then why are they in Forks, Washington!? In HIGH SCHOOL!?

2. bạn say this story is about a Vampire, Werewolf and Human. I won't disagree with the human part, but the Cullens are NOT vampires. They don't drink blood, they don't die from a stake to the heart, they don't burn in the sun, and they don't have fangs. Jacob isn't a werewolf. He doesn't...
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Intelligence, I was not born with. Talent, minimal. Endurance, plenty. I wish I could be a Hermione Granger. The world is a cruel place for a woman and a brainy one at that. The close I come to is a Ron Weasley.

Hermione, from her introduction, comes off as a snooty know-it-all. An outcast who never gets along with anybody because she knows too much. But as we di chuyển on in the series she becomes the strongest pillar of the trio. She thrives on competition and always comes on top. Being a muggle-born and to be accepted into the wizard-world she faces discrimination and isolation from many but...
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I found these fascinating, thought bạn guys might too, :)


Bellatrix - “Bella” is a construct of the word “bellum” meaning “war” and “trix” refers to “a woman in power.” Bellatrix is therefore known as the “Female Warrior” and is also the pale yellow ngôi sao indicating the left shoulder of the constellation Orion, the Great Hunter.

Blaise - Blaise was the teacher of Merlin. From the Roman name Blasius, which means “lisping.” From the Latin “blaesus.” A famous bearer was Blaise Pascal, a French mathematician and philosopher.

Draco...
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OK, there are millions of people who write thest kind of articles, but please try and control your patience, and read this.

The Love
Harry Potter has love. Not lust.
Hermione didn't stare and Ron and say "OMG he is soooo hot, I am in love" no, Hermione and Ron started of as hating each other. Halfway through their first năm they became friends. In HBP and DH they both started getting feelings for each other. They tình yêu each other for who they are. That is real love. Twilight on the other hand has no real love. Bella and Edward fall in tình yêu with each other, they kiss, Bella gets pregnant. ALL THIS...
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posted by KateKicksAss
One thing I've noticed in general is that anti's tend to make a pretty big deal out of the Twilight ma cà rồng sparkling. I've seen people saying things like real ma cà rồng don't sparkle, ma cà rồng not sparkling was a fact, and that it was gay of them to sparkle. Okay, of ALL the things to criticize in Twilight, people are going after the SPARKLING? Seriously?

First off, at least where I'm from, calling something “gay” as an insult is considered really rude and distasteful. Besides being rude and homophobic, it's also generalizing and stereotyping. Just because something sparkles doesn't make...
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Whoa. Its the final battle already? It seems like this all started a week ago....which it did....so...yeah.
NOTE: I am a Twilight fan, so do not suggest that I think all Twilight những người hâm mộ are crazy. I also think HP is better than Twilight, though. Just a little.
NOTE:I like HP and T, I am not trying to make fun of either, I'm just having fun with some of the ideas.
NOTE: okay, I'm just putting this note in to build suspense.
NOTE: This is it. The big one. The end. The last one. The one and only. The awesome one. The one that is the end. The climatic one. The one that, if bạn do not read, will send...
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I was typing up an response to iluvtwilight_ for my personal enjoyment when someone reported the câu hỏi and had it removed. I felt much frustration as what was once a very entertaining activity was reduced to pointlessness. This makes an already depressed person like me thêm depressed. Siriusly, I want to committ suicide now...

No, I don't... not yet. But I considered leaving for a brief moment.
But to address this problematic issue. I present: link. O.o What's this? Wikipedia has a specific project devoted to adding humour to the site? OMG, on such a serious site?

Yes, even on such a serious...
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So Harry Potter is MUCH better than some stupid book about wimpy girls and sparkly fairies. First off:
ALL the Twilight people are UGLY! I mean seriously, Taylor Lautners muscles are gross and he has ugly man-boobs. He looks like a creep on steroids. and Robert Pattison looks like a bum, and Kristen looks like a drug aggict as Bella. I mean, EW! Who wants to watch a movie with eyesores like them? Harry Potter is WAY better, I mean we have HOT guys, and the girls aren't half bad either! I mean. we have Lucius, Draco, Sirius, and Snape to say the LEAST! Plus like a zillion other eye-candy dudes!...
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Discussion regarding Twilight ma cà rồng and reply to Drisina at link

First Part:
The thing is Drisina, one cannot bởi fiat change a legend to whatever one very well pleases with. ma cà rồng have been in mythology from the 17th century, e.g. Countess Elizabeth Bathory who alledgedly drank her female servants blood to stay young.

So what Stephenie Meyer does is that she takes the vampire-myth, and discards the gorier details and imperfections, replaces them with what she thinks they should be and et voila, we have Edward Cullen.

Now I shall dissect why most people think its a bad thing to do. Recall...
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posted by harrypotterbest
The Volturi and The Death Eaters have a lot in common. This bài viết points out the features of The Death Eaters that the Volturi seem to have as well.
Before I begin, bạn have to remember that The Death Eaters were here first – so the Volturi copied them, not the other way around. Now, the leaders of the Volturi are –unless I’m very much mistaken – Aro, Marcus, and Caius. The leader of The Death Eaters is Lord Voldemort.
The Dark Lord can perform Legilemency, which is rather like mind reading, whatever Snape says. Aro can read minds too. The Dark Lord needs eye contact, Aro needs a...
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posted by harrypotterbest
Severus Snape. The man we all hated. Then loved. Then went back to hating. And then we positively loathed him. But, after, we found out hi story. And, when we knew the truth, what did we feel? Love.
Yes, we ended up loving Severus Snape. Because, once we knew HIS side of the story, it was clear.
Snape had a difficult childhood, which probably led to his disturbed adulthood. But we knew nothing about this until we read The Deathly Hallows. And after we found out, found out exactly what he had suffered through, our emotions changed. Snape is one of the deepest characters in Harry Potter, and...
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It’s been a while since i am here in this Harry Potter vs Twilight community. Now, being a die hard Harry Potter người hâm mộ my vote always go for the same, but I feel bởi criticizing any of the two of them is insulting the world of story writing. I give it a thought why this whole Harry Potter vs Twilight thing is started and all that comes to me is a memory of mine. At some point I liked Twilight (though not as much as I am obsessed with Harry Potter). Then one ngày I had an argument with a friend of mine & naturally I sided with Harry Potter but hearing illogical criticism turned me against...
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Ok, time for the other side of the story, in other words, time for another interview with a Twilight “hater”. Her name is Izabella, aka: venvargie! Let’s get started!

Could bạn introduce yourself please!

Hah, okay well I'm Izabella. But I usually go bởi Ven on the interwebz. I'm turning 16 in a few months and I don't watch a lot of TV so I don't have a yêu thích hiển thị xD.

What is it that bạn hate about Twilight?

Well, I hate the sparkling thing the most. Growing up, I watched all kinda of scary vampire phim chiếu rạp with my older brother and they were always the kind that died in the light and vanted...
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Heellooooo!!!! I'm feeling rather ngẫu nhiên today so I thought I'd take a leaf out of Emma's rather large, leather bound book and do a stupid Harry Potter quiz. It's not actually a story, just a ngẫu nhiên collection of letters put together to form a ngẫu nhiên collection of words which will, in turn, provide a ngẫu nhiên collection of potentially amusing sentences. So, enjoy my little freaks!!!
Beware: If bạn have no sense of humour: DO NOT ENTER!!!
PS. I decided to post this on this spot as well as the HP one because everyone seems so mad at the opposition so I thought they might need a laugh :)



Read the...
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posted by snapeislove
The "jejemon" mania is spreading in my country like mad.

I am a Filipino and Im getting really upset because almost half of the 'jejemon' population is in my country. Even my Những người bạn greet me through text messages '.,inN DisZ qKinD oFv m4nN3Rr.,' and Im now confused if they're simply Twihards hoặc just some bunch of lunatics. I am also sad because when I tìm kiếm what 'jejemon' means it always come up with explanations that involve my country, am I gonna deny that I am a Filipino? will I curse them all because they're all proud of it? will I beg them to stop the stupidity? I know my options will...
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New Moon Review

“…she [Stephanie Meyer] can’t write worth a darn. She’s not very good…” ~ Stephen King

And frankly, I agree. Stephanie Meyer, tác giả of the Twilight series, has gotten her share of criticism, but also many undeserved raving fans. I’m going to take a closer look at her một giây book in this series, New Moon.
New Moon Is quite possibly the just all-around worst book in the series, and I will tell bạn why.

One, Edward leaves Bella, and she turns into a zombie-like wreck. She abandons all of her friends, instead focusing what little personality she has on hatred for Edward...
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posted by luv_warriorcatz
All credits go to Das_Mervin's sporking of the Twilight series: link

I just wanted to cut out this snippet and paste it here because I completely agree here. There is no being that's invincible, no matter how unnecessarily overpowered bạn make them.
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Meyer thinks that humans are limited to two types of weapons: súng and slow-moving bombs. Oh, Meyer. bạn silly, silly bitch. There is one thing that we humans have been consistently good at since we first picked up a rock and looked speculatively at that rùa, con rùa hiding smugly inside of its shell:...
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