i think im going to leave this club

We've had Twilight những người hâm mộ think this was a cover for a bashing club, the ones I saw changed their minds when they looked around. There are serious discussions where we talk about our dislike for certain plots, but that's expressing an opinion not bashing (which I would consider close minded hate, hoặc refusal to hear an opposing viewpoint). There are also mocking images, but they are intended as a joke, not to offend fans. In fact some of them were even đã đăng bởi Twilighters. We do not 'get joy' out of saying hateful things, we get it out of interesting debate/analysis. and jokes.
bạn say so many people here think bạn are an idiot hoặc have no taste in sách for liking Twilight. Please can bạn link me to any page where someone has đã đưa ý kiến something like that to you? Because we have rules on this spot, and if anyone has insulted bạn just for liking the sách they have broken the rules and do not represent the các lượt xem of the spot as a whole.

Also, when people talk about the 'crazy' fans, they are not talking about just anyone who likes the books. When we say crazy những người hâm mộ we don't mean people who tình yêu the books, who talk about them, buy merchandise, even dress up as characters. bởi crazy we only mean the ones who have insulted hoặc attacked us, hoặc have done something that makes them seem crazy. It's not an insult to all fans.

This spot has an undeniable imbalance, but we are trying very hard to fix it. The problem is, many Twilighters see the debates (that are so far mainly hiển thị an anti view) and think 'this spot is for antis'. We really want the spot to become fair to both sides, and we want our debates to have a pro opinion. Maybe better than leaving would be to invite some of your pro Twilight fanpop Những người bạn to tham gia so bạn can all express your side in our debates? (*Important* bởi this I don't mean a call to arms, to come put antis in their place hoặc something. I mean letting thêm pros know we really do want them to be heard, so they can come and help the spot have a balance of opinions)

If the only reason bạn were leaving is thinking we all hate Twilight and it's fans, and that your opinion wouldn't be welcomed I hope bạn reconsider. There are going to be rude people on every spot, but they don't represent the majority of us. If this spot simply isn't for bạn then I understand, and hope bạn know that it's not true we hate hoặc look down on Twilighters. Our spot members certainly don't think bạn are stupid hoặc lack taste for being a Twilighter :)

Goodbye, then.

Well, all right.
I'm a người hâm mộ of Twilight, and I honestly have no clue what you're talking about.
The people on this spot-in my opinion-have been very nice, and the ONLY people that I have seen them bashing are the over-the-top Twilight fans-you know, the ones who have made the religion "Cullenism", and threaten to kill people if they don't like Edward Cullen? I have not seen them criticize anybody who says that they are fans.
Also, I don't think this is a bashing spot. I think that this really is crytical.

"well i think harry potter is overrated but bạn dont see any critical analysis of that."

Okay...where did that come from, Twilight_Dream. I believe that the reason HP doesn't have that is because unlike Twilight, it is generally liked bởi a lot of people, instead of a ton of people who hate it and a ton of people who tình yêu it.

If bạn want to leave this spot, fine. Do it. It's not my choice. But I find it really funny that there are a LOT of us Twilight những người hâm mộ who complain ALL THE TIME that this is a bashing spot, and yet they do nothing about it. They don't make and pro-Twilight picks, hoặc answers, hoặc forums, hoặc anything-the ones who I've seen complain, at least. I don't remember bạn ever posting anything, so I guess good bye then, but bạn do realize that bạn could MAKE pro-Twilight stuff, right, instead of just sitting here and complaining about it?


Okay...switching to nice mode: I guess I could see why bạn want to leave. There is a lot of negativity around Twilight, and I'm sorry that bạn don't like going on this club anymore. So..good bye.

I'm sort of going to address something bạn wrote - a 'Critical Analysis of Harry Potter' spot. If bạn look around the Harry Potter spot, we do criticize HP sometimes so I don't think there's a need for a separate CAHP spot.

Sorry, but I can't say that I entirely agree with bạn about what's going in the club. And your statement about Harry Potter.

But if bạn think bạn should leave, then that's your opinion.

FYI: Harry Potter vs. Twilight is a Crytical Analysis of BOTH books/movies. Besides, this club is for people who want to get away from the Twilight hype along with CRYTICIZING IT!!!

Well, this is free speech about Twilight. bạn as a người hâm mộ need to remember that us non-fans have like NO retreat. I see Twilight wherever I go. NO JOKE! Twilight here, Twilight there, OMG Twilight, Twilight Twilight. Rob is the best, Taylor is so cute blah blah blah! The only time we hear about Harry Potter is when a book is released hoặc a movie comes out. Which is never again for the books,- though hope that changes. And every năm hoặc Two years for the movies. If bạn arent an obsessive Twilighter, than our cynical points of view for the series arent toward you, they are toward those who cant seem to get a grip on reality.

I agree but disagree at the same time. I started đọc Twilight back when almost no one knew about it... and it was great, but as soon as it started to get thêm popular, things started to change...and eventually, i hated twilight... i hated all the advertisement and the whole drama pretty much, but then i decided to enjoy what i liked best about it(the book)and ignored the rest. Personally, i think the movie wasn't good compared to the book.

I'm very sorry that bạn felt so uncomfortable here. =( But some people have các câu lạc bộ that they fit right into, and then other các câu lạc bộ that they don't like as much. Maybe it was just the wrong club for you, like getting a shoe in the wrong size hoặc something.

I hate to see bạn go, but it'll be better that way. =) Just don't think negatively of us, especially of Dearheart (who is just awesome). Maybe we'll see bạn around somewhere else. *Gives cookies*

If that's what bạn choose .

Everyone's pretty much đã đưa ý kiến everything that needs to be said. I'll just add that I have the feeling that a lot of Twilighters think we bash when they make positive các bình luận about Twilight and we câu hỏi them when really we'd just like a good explanation. It's critical analysis so saying "i luurv Eddykins becuz hez hawt" doesn't really cut it here. We'd like to know why bạn think he's so fantastic because a lot of us have lot of reasons why he isn't. It's nothing personal. And it definitely isn't insulting bạn because of your opinion. We genuinely want to know why bạn tình yêu your book so much. Sometimes that goal does get Mất tích though - I can't say that we're all perfect and we do the right thing all the time. But our goal is to keep bạn around because bạn like Twilight! Keeping bạn here is the only way bashing will decrease. But if bạn have to leave then bạn have to leave and I'm sorry for that.

We're the same....

I think Harry Potter as overratted!!!

I'm a Twilight Fanatic myself and I am really offended that some say negative and hateful things about Twilight.
I think it's really great and fantastic...
And I tình yêu Stephanie Meyer too...(though I tình yêu Carolyn Keene and Daniel Steel most)
And I like đọc it again and again....
especially Breakin Dawn!


If bạn want to leave this club it's your decision... I'm not going to criticize bạn for leaving and...

can bạn be my friend?

My name is
Mraz Bell

♥ ya'

bye

im leavin this club

I think bạn are right(except about HP).

Sadly, this spot has turned into a bashing club in many ways. However, I think it is because of an inbalance, and the fact that there are problems with Twilight.

But thats no reason to behave like some people on this spot do.

So, I'd say bạn should stay, just to provide a bit thêm balance. Leaving won't solve anything. But, if bạn want to leave, then leave. It's bạn choice.

This club is just about expressing opinions about twilight. I don't think people should be rude about it, but if they are then there's no reason something so it really doesn't matter what people to get offended. Twilight is not a person hoặc say about it as long as they're not making fun of bạn in particular. I must say that I agree with bạn on the fact that Harry Potter is overrated though.