TVGuide scan on "Five To Nine" 

David Shore saying that "Five To Nine" is about Cuddy's life with Lucas, Lisa saying that no Huddy love scene was yet filmed... I don't know what the other spoilers really meant (the Aussiello spoiler about Cuddy sharing her bed with two people, or Lisa's comment in the Aussiello interview that she gets to do it all in her ep (after she was asked about making out with Hugh)... But unless we get Huddy sex in the "Five To Nine" promo (!), i'm gonna wait for this ep with a very confusing mix of Huddy pesimism and Cuddy screen time anticipation...

I've said it before and I'll say it again, in case anyone is thinking it: if Aussiello's spoiler about another person in bed with Lisa was a reference to Rachel, that it's disgusting, childish and stupid to an extent that i did not expect, even from him... To make a "funny" sexual allusion and base a "hit" spoiler on a woman being in bed with her baby daughter, that is nothing less than disgusting.

The article doesn't say that the episode is about her life with Lucas..

"We see her life at the hospital, at home and with this guy Lucas she's dating.."

But of course we're going to see Lucas since he's the one Cuddy's dating..

Agreed, this is what I've come to expect from Ausiello. Just like the marriage proposal spoiler, he tends to try and hype things up. He's just doing it for publicity. I (and it doesn't sound like I am alone on this) have come to almost ignore Ausiello's spoilers by now. He rarely, if ever, gives you an "accurate" representation of what is going to happen, and even if he does, he doesn't give you the "whole story". Case in point, the Huddysex spoiler from last year. Sure, it was true that we saw Huddysex, but it turned out to be a hallucination. Tho it's hard to fault him for leaving that part out as it would have completely ruined the rest of the season. But STILL!!!

Be forewarned: take Ausiello's spoilers with a grain of salt. It's never the most obvious answer and usually (especially as of lately) it's the most depressing or unsatisfying answer (unless ur a Luddy supporter). As far as the "share her bed with two people" spoiler, I'm a believer it's Rachel. I mean, one person is obviously Lucas, but I'm 99.999% sure the other person ISN'T House. Just another ruse to rile up the Huddy fanbase (whom he knows would be very interested in a scoop like that).

As far as the whole Huddy situation, the writers seem to be really pouring it on thick, don't they? They seem to be using every opportunity they can to rub Luddy in our faces! And to what end? What are they trying to accomplish? I dunno but I guess the hopeful (or is it hopeless at this point?) side of me wants to believe that they are doing it because they want us to sink to the lowest place possible so that they can spring Huddy on us when we least expect it.

When you've hit rock bottom, there's no direction to go but up, right?

I find it interesting that they put a picture of Huddy on a page describing Cuddy and Luddy...hmmm...
TPTB aren't stupid and they know that there is a large Huddy fanbase. At the same time, and it pains me to say this as a huge Huddy, they aren't going to give us a fullfedged Huddiness because they would have to demolish it shortly after. I think I can actually cope with the Luddy at the moment because as soon as they get rid of Lucas, who knows what they will throw in the way.

I am more or less resigning myself to the fact that Huddy will exist in the minds and hearts of the Huddy fans for now and maybe for a while. The tension is what we love and when there is no tension, then what?
Sounds pesimistic, but I am not. I just am understanding that they will drag it out as long as possible. The hardest thing to me would be to have them explode in a million pieces because it doesn't work out. That would suck bad!

LipschitzWrath, I completely agree. That's what i meant, that's what i feel. And that's what i hope: that they are pushing the Luddy arc in our faces so hard, so that to make all Huddy fans boil with frustration, and then offer a HUGE unexpected payback. But perhaps that is wishful thinking, i just don't know anymore.
Also completely agree on the Aussiello subject, even if i stick to the point that the "Rachel" allusion is disgusting and cheap, because there was a definite sexual subtext to that spoiler... and it's disgusting.

Belle, i value your opinions as much as always, but i just don't share your view on this. Yes, it was the tension that we were fans of, but it's not anylonger, at least not for me. Up to season 5, i was a huge fan of the tension and the teasing and the games and the flirting. During season 5 and especially after it ended, i became a fan of the deeper level of their relationship: the loyalty, the understanding, the love, the torment, the passion, the tenderness. The fact that the writers decided to open our eyes to the depth of Huddy (which was always there, but never made obvious and never pushed to the center of attention quite like it was starting with "Lucky Thirteen" and up till now) means that they were ready to address Huddy on a whole new level. But they are not - and i cannot help but wonder if they ever will.

The Luddy arc could be their creative solution to raise the expectations and build the Huddy climax, or it could be just the beginning of a long string of adverse events that will push the possibility of Huddy further and further. I still hope it's the first one, but if nothing really good happens by the end of season 6, i think it's the second one, because there is a time frame for these things to happen and i think the Huddy story loses credibility if postponed for much longer. I have read a lot of comments on non-Huddy sites, where House fans wonder "if Cuddy loves House, why is she holding on to this freaky guy for so long" and recently, "if House loves Cuddy, why did he start the game to get Nora in bed" etc. Of course these questions can be answered at this point, but if this goes on and on and on, the answers will become too complicated and the Huddy arc will lose credibility and veridicity to the point where it will make sense to move away from it, from a creative point of view.
Of course that bringing them together and then blowing it apart is a very painful version too. And them staying together for a long time is another improbable solution, this show being such as it is... So i wonder: perhaps they will, in fact, move away from Huddy, further and further?... No idea. I know what i want, but i have no idea what we'll really get. I still hope though. I'll keep my hope up till the end of this season. After that... perhaps i'll try a little self protection and move away from it myself. I'm sorry to say that, but i'm not a masochist:(

LipschitzWrath, Belle, just a little more on the wishful thinking front: "Known Unknowns" was the last episode in which we saw any form of "normal" Huddy interaction. After that, we saw something that we've never seen before: they are avoiding each other, House is clearly genuinely hurt, Cuddy feels guilty and confused, they are cold, awkward... It's different, completely different from anything we've seen before, so clearly the writers are not trying to force it back to the previous pattern (the one we've had prior to "Joy", let's say). This is leading to something, the bubble will explode at some point, they are building the tension and the expectation. So i'm thinking, the "building the climax" theory could still be right, right? Right?...

The "building the climax" theory definitely holds water, in my opinion. And I do believe the bubble will explode. However, similar to Ausiello's spoilers, the writer's have a bad habit of having the bubble explode in a completely unexpected and often disappointing fashion.

An example that I can think of off the top of my head is S5's "Let Them Eat Cake". The Huddy had built and built and built, and then they finally faced each other in House's furniture-less office, only to have House smash the situation into smithereens with his boob grab.

I fear something similar will happen with this situation. Something will cause Cuddy and Lucas to break up and slowly (or maybe quickly) Huddy will begin to slip back into the limelight. Then when it seems that Huddy is imminent, another obstacle will rear its ugly head. Need I mention the Lydia spoiler that is floating around out there? I hope that nothing serious materializes outta that spoiler, but I could see how it could present itself as a "wrench in the Huddy machine".

An a more optimistic note, one could argue that circumstances are definitely different this time around. House seems, at least for the time being, more mature and has a better sense of what he wants (Cuddy). Also, once the Luddy arc ends, I think that Cuddy will be more self-aware of just what House means to her. Delia, your comment about them fundamentally changing how Huddy is being handled is spot-on. True, Huddy has always "been there", but they are addressing it differently now.

which issue is this article in?

@DB, I hope that for your sake, you are right and it all happens exactly as you believe it should.
Maybe that will happen and if so, that is great.

The part I have a hard time with is in understanding what will happen after. Is it worth it if they break up right away or end up miserable and hating each other?

I have said before that I have great confidence in the writers and I believe that they could write a storyline that worked well with Huddy and also the dysfunction that is Houses world, but pretty much everyone involved in the show has said at one time or another that they will never make House happy or it would ruin the show.

Whether I agree with that or not, I think it is the way they see it, and they are TPTB.

LW spoke of the scene in "Let Them Eat Cake" when House crushed what I thought was a possible spectacular Huddy moment. What I see happening this year is Cuddy doing the same thing to House but I believe that many are getting very upset over this, more so than when it was her last year in the same situation. It’s really never clear. She was pretty hurt by him last year and I think she is desperately trying to guard herself.

I think that Cuddy does love House but maybe she loves who she wants House to be and so she is going to settle with Lucas for now. The boob grab, the hooker in his office, him not showing up to Rachel’s baby naming ceremony, the absolutely horrid thing he said to her when she walked out of his office and he proceeded to continue with a hallucination.…maybe it was all too much for her to keeping holding on to hope.

Maybe House does really love Cuddy, but he is a man who frequents hookers, so I don't think he necessarily equates sex with love nor, do I think he will wait for Cuddy. They are, after all middle aged people with a common knowledge that time is on the downward slope.

Maybe I am totally wrong and I actually hope for the sake of those who disagree with me that House and Cuddy will have Huddex and then a committed, happy relationship. I guess I don't believe that will happen and I also don't think that there is just a small window of time that if not opened far enough and soon enough, it will close. Last year pretty much turned my beliefs and hopes on their ear and there is no going back, for the characters or for me.

In the meantime, I look forward to seeing Cuddy’s episode, and the episode that Hugh directed. There should be a lot of great moments and lines ahead. I am learning to love my show by the moment! ; )

LW, you are right, the writers like to make the bubble explode in completely unexpected manners, but i wouldn't call the outcomes disappointing (not even in "Let them eat cake" - that just added another brick in the construction, and if they got together then, none of them would have had the courage to be honest about their feelings). The surprise element makes it even more impressive for me, every time. It's kind of what i still hope will happen this season. The truth will come out in a most unexpected manner and something big will happen, something that finally does justice to this beautiful romance. I still hope, i do.

Belle - you are right. I wish for Huddy sex to happen and for Huddy comittment, but it might bring along the real end of Huddy. But perhaps it can be dealt with differently. Perhaps the writers can handle Huddy as a couple inside the show, just as they handled the other positive changes in House's life this year. I mean, look at him and Wilson. Look at House in "Wilson", look at them living together. It didn't ruin the show, even if it's a big change. I know having him in a full-blown relationship is different than having him open up to his best friend, but still...

The thing is, at this point, it's a dead end. The writers have pushed it too far. If they kept Huddy like it was for the first four seasons, then no problem. Even if they kept Huddy as it was during season five, it still could have been handled without attempting a relationship. What made all the difference in the world were "Under My Skin", BSN and season six. They could have walked away from the Huddy arc a THOUSAND times before. They could have really moved away from it after BSN. They could have really moved away from it after "Broken". But they did not - on the contrary, they chose to make House's feelings for her more obvious in season six than ever before. So i don't think it's over. I don't think they'll get back to what it was before. It doesn't make sense to me, because all the creative decisions they made seem to be building the Huddy climax.

LW: i heard the Lydia spoilers, but i doubt they are true, and even if they are, i have the insane hope that maybe it will be good for Huddy. I did not like the Lydia storyline in "Broken" (it was a blow for me, i knew about the sex, but i did not know about the emotional intimacy and involvement, that he would go after her and beg her to stay, that really kicked me in the face), but now i'm thinking, if she makes an appearance at PPTH for whatever reason, then maybe Cuddy will realize that House has indeed changed and is capable to care about someone, or maybe House will send Lydia away because he can no longer fool himself that he can replace Lisa with anyone... Maybe it can be a step forward for Huddy in some way. Getting Franka Potente as a regular guest star, like Sela Ward and Michael Weston, and House having a real relationship with her - now that's something that would make me stop watching...

Belle, on the "is it worth it" issue, i should say yes. Even in the worst case scenario, they get together and soon break up and be miserable and hate each other - yes, it would be worth it. The old "to love and lose is better than to have never loved at all" thing. To try to make a love affair work and fail is better than to have never tried at all. To do something, anything, to express your feelings for a person you've loved for years and years is better than never act upon your feelings at all. To regret that something did not work out is better than to regret that you've never given it a try at all.
And for us, as viewers, the question is a difficult one if the choices are "relationship&breakup" versus "the fun version of Huddy" (the one we've had for the first four seasons and some episodes of season 5). But if the choice has to be made between "the current Huddy ice age, cold and awkward interactions or episodes with no scenes together whatsoever" versus "hot relationship and then breakup", i think we'd all vote pretty much the same... The current situation is a non-Huddy, i'd rather see them doing anything (being heartbroken, crying, screaming, fighting or hurting each other) than avoiding and ignoring each other like they do now...

PS: on the reason people are getting pissed off at Luddy more than at the thousand chances House had blown in the past: Belle, i don't think it's necessarily because of the fact that we care about House more. I think it's because even in season 5, nobody could be sure that what we were seeing was love, not just games or desire or whatever. Until BSN, we only suspected that Cuddy loves him and he loves her. The difference is that now we know that he loves her - it can be argued whether his way of loving her is right or whether it's all that she deserves etc etc etc, but the fact that he does love her, in his own twisted way, that cannot be argued. So it hurts more, from our point of view - for many reasons, one of them being that we know how hard it is for him to love and how few people there are that he loves and how much his love is worth, because of the beautiful brilliant infuriating man that he is, and how much pain there was in his life and it's sad to see them like this. It's just so sad.