awww poor carly, hope you feel better soon
well i think you forgot to ask me lol but i caught the forum anyways :)
okay here's how i see this issue and you know i really don't understand it so feel free to just turn around and say that's not right
but from my understanding,
Christians are saying jesus died for our sins and we need him to repent for the sins we commit
what i'm saying is, no one else can take any responsibility for your sins but yourself
like shadowflame said to me
"Eve disobeyed God (I'm sure you know the story) and sin's thus letting sin into our world and into all her children. we were born with sin in us. Jesus came down to earth so we could repent our sins. You can't say (because I've seen comments you've written before) "My sins are my own." because you can't get rid of them yourself. You need Jesus."
to which i replied
"by the logic of you last statement
"it's our fault in the first place. It all goes back to The Fall."
it's basically like saying a poor innocent child who has never heard of the bible is dying slowly and painfully from hunger right now because a woman ate a apple
so your basically saying either god is on drugs or is actually crueler than Satan
I do not need jesus, i'm sorry i don't, if i lie to my mother i don't need someone to be brutally murdered on a cross that makes no logical sense, i need to apologize to my mother and tell her the truth weather i find the ability to do that from the fear that if i don't i will burn in hell or from my own morals
i know that sounds terribly disrespectful but if i can't find a way to phrase it better that"
i don't understand why god would want us to place our burdens on someone else, surly taking them on ourselves and trying to make amends ourselves is more the morally correct thing to do?
EDIT: random question, can it be called a sacrifice if jesus went to heaven afterwards anyway, if he lost nothing it's not really a sacrifice
well i think you forgot to ask me lol but i caught the forum anyways :)
okay here's how i see this issue and you know i really don't understand it so feel free to just turn around and say that's not right
but from my understanding,
Christians are saying jesus died for our sins and we need him to repent for the sins we commit
what i'm saying is, no one else can take any responsibility for your sins but yourself
like shadowflame said to me
"Eve disobeyed God (I'm sure you know the story) and sin's thus letting sin into our world and into all her children. we were born with sin in us. Jesus came down to earth so we could repent our sins. You can't say (because I've seen comments you've written before) "My sins are my own." because you can't get rid of them yourself. You need Jesus."
to which i replied
"by the logic of you last statement
"it's our fault in the first place. It all goes back to The Fall."
it's basically like saying a poor innocent child who has never heard of the bible is dying slowly and painfully from hunger right now because a woman ate a apple
so your basically saying either god is on drugs or is actually crueler than Satan
I do not need jesus, i'm sorry i don't, if i lie to my mother i don't need someone to be brutally murdered on a cross that makes no logical sense, i need to apologize to my mother and tell her the truth weather i find the ability to do that from the fear that if i don't i will burn in hell or from my own morals
i know that sounds terribly disrespectful but if i can't find a way to phrase it better that"
i don't understand why god would want us to place our burdens on someone else, surly taking them on ourselves and trying to make amends ourselves is more the morally correct thing to do?
EDIT: random question, can it be called a sacrifice if jesus went to heaven afterwards anyway, if he lost nothing it's not really a sacrifice
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