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salemslot said:
As much as I would love to see him being thrown in the darkest pit on Earth and disappear, these actions (petitions) put me off. The writers have a vision (blah) and they won't sidetrack from it if people make another pointless petition. Look at JM. They already know that the audience doesn't appreciate this storyline and these kind of actions would just give them feedback to defend themselves and say that whatever they do, they do it for the true and loyal fans of the show *rolls eyes*

I'm going to say this before people start biting off my head, the ratings are down because,like last year, the personal aspect of the show (Huddy, Luddy, 14, Chameron, whatever) is overshawoding the medical side of the show which WAS, IS and WILL ALWAYS be the primary reason why the majority of fans watch the show.
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babybell said:
You say that, but last year we had a record for the highest ratings in history. It was something completely insane and crazy. And i still disagree with that statement, the personal/medical thing is different, but not by a noticeable amount, and the point of the show is to discover things about House, isn't it? They've just moved from their main source of discovering to being the patients personal lives to the peoples personal lives reflecting on House's, which is surely just natural progression? I don't know. And i highly doubt ratings are low, they're just down, and still comparatively incredibly high compared to a lot of other shows.

And please don't consider this as biting your head off, i really don't intend to. That's just how i see it. And who cares about my opinion anyway? I'm probably just incredibly delusional because the only time i didn't like House was the Greater Good and i find these episodes better to watch than the earlier seasons ones.
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salemslot said:
You want to talk about ratings? The things are simple. The demo ratings are always high but in the marketing industry they don't count a lot as the conventional TV ratings do. Worldwide, House may have been first but when people talk about ratings, they talk about US ratings which economically bring more revenue than any other. It represends over half of the revenue of TV shows. An example is Prison Break. It had really low ratings in the States but worldwide it was always in the Top 3 and they cancelled it last year. Not that House is going to be cancelled but I'm trying to accentuate the fact that worldwide ratings don't count for networks.

Season5 had an average of 13 million viewers, if that's the record for highest rating in history, then my math sucks. S1 had an average of 16 million, s2 around 17 even though in the beginning of that season there was a drop. S3 had an average of 20 million and only lost 3 million during the season finale. S4 had around 16 million. For those who claim that s4 is one of the most succssful seasons because of the 29 million that saw "Frozen", I have to say that it had a significant lead-in by the Super Bowl so it is not prudent to take that into consideration when talking about statistic facts. The highest rating (beside "Frozen") is "One Day,
One Room" that reached 28 million without any significant lead-in. s6 started with 16 million and has been flactuating since then around 12 and 13 million. And I'm sad to bring this up but the show has lost the respect it had by the renowned critics and that is a fact all House fans shouldn't be happy with.

I agree with you that experimenting with the basic formula is healthy and reinvigorates TV shows ONLY if the writing remains at the same level with the previous years which from my POV wasn't even close to the word good. Greater Good, Here Kitty, Last Resort, DCE, Not Cancer, seriously? The POTW are the basis of the show, you form your story around them and procced to the personal aspect of the show but since s4 they have been as interesting and substantial as watching a political debate. Now, if you believe that the personal aspect they are showing now is sth new, I'd say rewatch the Hilson arc last year and the Hacy arc in s2. Fans are complaining because the writers are not giving justice to themselves with what they are writing these past 3 sasons even though s6 has been unexpectedly good for me. If I didn't care about the show, I wouldn't even bother with it, I'd stop watching it and that would be end of story, I wouldn't go down the path of a simpatico fan but sometimes some things should be heard even if people don't agree with you.

This is not personally adressed to you, bb but to the fandom in general.
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Myrtyleg said:
Totally agree with salemslot. Both posts are spot on.
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babybell said:
LOL i totally just got owned ;)

the worldwide ratings may not be what they count on for whether a show gets cancelled, but they are incredibly high, aren't they? And surely that says something about the shows successfulness, doesn't it?

The episodes you listed weren't great, admittedly, but on the other hand some of the episodes last season were really fantastic, and i though UMS/BSN was one of the most beautiful and clever tv things i have ever seen, and i watch A LOT of TV.

And i really wouldn't know about things as interesting and substantial as watching a political debate because being the geek that i am i actually enjoy watching some political debates ;)

I don't know, i don't think the quality has made a significant decrease for my POV from the first seasons.
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Ooooooooooooooook... the petition was meant to be just for good fun....
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I don't care if this was meant as "fun". It is the perfect example of why the Luddy spot is a much more fun place to be right now than this spot.
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koch89 said:
you guys are taking this way too seriously don't gang up on huddyislove. I can't stand the luddy spot right now and the only reason that place is happy is because they are getting their full blown relationship while any chances of our ship is being trampled on. it makes me sad that so many of you guys are being so harsh on anybody who does not like the luddy arc for that matter. it strange since we are all supposed to be huddy fans. it the luddy arc you like or is it the fact that your trying to defend the writers? i should also mention that many of the reviews for these past 2 episode were awful. house usually get good reviews and higher rating. if you don't think this bad now just wait till march lucas will still be around a by that time i think their rating will really drop based on all the spoilers i have read the storyline is not looking very promising if people didn't like these episodes. just my opinion though
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Don't know about anybody else, but I haven't said anything against huddyislove...

I'm really sorry that you hate Luddy fan happiness. The positive celebration of ship is indeed a terrible thing.
I have been a happy Luddy fan since Lucas was introduced to the show in season 5. I will continue to be a happy Luddy fan long after the relationship ends (if it does) and long after the show ends. I am still a happy Foreteen fan despite the issues that they are facing. And I am still a very happy Huddy fan, because I appreciate their relationship during the good times and the bad times.

My problem with all this crap about Luddy is that Huddy fans in general have been shitting on the show as a whole, the writers and producers of the show, and the actors. It is this kind of fan behaviour that fucks up a show. Why should the writers bother writing a show if fans won't even give the storylines a chance to develop? I'm not saying that you have to like Lucas, or the Luddy storyline (I FULLY ENCOURAGE EVERY FAN TO BE CRITICAL OF THE SHOW), but I would love to see Huddy fans at least appreciate that they cannot control the show and that they actually do not have the right to dictate what happens on the show.

By all means, dislike Lucas and the Luddy arc if that is what makes you happy, but at some point it would be awesome for people to acknowledge that a) a number of people love this arc, b) shitting on the writers and producers will achieve nothing, except perhaps drawing the attention of network big-wigs with the power to cancel a show, and c) Huddy fandom is suffering because everyone keeps bitching about a storyline that HASN'T EVEN PLAYED OUT YET.

As for spoilers, I have already talked a lot about my views on spoilers and I was thrilled to see that a number of Fanpoppers agreed with me. I reccommend that you read the article I wrote in the House MD Spot if you care about spoilers.

I'm sorry if you think that my comments here are really bitchy. I have tried to get my message across maturely and that didn't work. I am just so sick of trying to have an intelligent dicussion about the Huddy/Luddy story are, only to be met with "Cuddy is a whore/Lucas sucks/the writers are assholes/I hate the show" arguments.
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Myrtyleg said:
misanthrope86, I love your passion but I will disagree with you. In my opinion, the Luddy storyline is played out; I've seen as much of it as I want to see or need to see because it's on just about every soap opera.

I can't help thinking of the love triangle in Stacy's arc. I think that Stacy/Mark/House was written so much better than Lucas/Cuddy/House and it's more compelling to watch.

At the time, I was really caught up in it despite being a Huddy. I didn't know who to root for. I felt Mark's pain, fear and frustration. I felt House's residual feelings for the big love of his life and I felt Stacy's downright confusion over what she should do.

This time around, I don't give two sh*ts about Lucas, and what's worse - I'm not feeling the empathy for Cuddy's dilemma that I had for Stacy and I'm almost wanting House to just leave her alone so that I don't have to watch any more of this painful stuff.

Stacy's arc had genuine powerful drama; Cuddy/Lucas's arc is just a depressing melodrama that feels like the blatant misstep that it is. I feel sorry for LE, HL and MW - they're doing their best to sell it. But the writers have got this one wrong. That's not bashing them; everybody messes up in their jobs at times - none of us are perfect.
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Thanks for your respectful response Myrtyleg.

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I don't like the storyline nor do I like what they did to Cameron. I think sometimes DS gets so focused on not making an unrealistically happy show that he creates an unrealistically unhappy show. I think he needs to allow some balance. Life isn't always full of disappointment and sadness as it isn't always filled with easy solutions. Constantly thinking of contrived ways to break people up, create conflict, and to show that nothing can ever work out becomes just as predictable as sitcoms where everything works out. After six years, I want some happiness in this show. It doesn't have to be overly sentimental to be happy.
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