Những nàng công chúa Disney Unpopular Disney opinions (confessions)

viktoriya773 posted on Feb 10, 2014 at 11:53PM
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cách đây 8 tháng KataraLover said…
I DON'T think that Varian from Tangled: The Series is a good or compelling villain AT ALL! In his early appearances, before he became a villain, he was a likable enough character. However, when he became a villain, the problems with his character were multifold. First being that the way he decided that Rapunzel and her allies were his enemies was just made it hard for me to understand his point of view, especially since a lot of it was HIS fault. Rapunzel couldn't leave to help because she was left in charge of her kingdom and her people needed her because of the dangerous winter weather. She had an entire kingdom in danger that needed her complete and total attention, so she couldn't just leave to help one kid. Second being that the reason he needed her help was because of a mess that HE caused. He was told not to mess with something but he felt the need to do it anyway and because of that, his dad was frozen in some weird ass gold rock thing. He's blaming Rapunzel and her allies for something that was his fault. True, if we went all the way back, it was the King's fault, but Varian just made it worse by messing with something that he didn't understand and would obviously just make worse. So his response was to make others suffer. That leads to the third problem, which is that he ends up just coming off as a little brat throwing a tantrum, won't take responsibility for what he did, blames others for something that he was to blame for and the only one who was more at fault was the King but still wanted everyone to pay, intentionally tries to kill innocent people like the Queen and Cassandra, and blatantly says that him being the bad guy was no fault of his own when it really is. The forth problem is his design. I don't care what they try to do! They are not going to make some scrawny, socially awkward, short, dorky, freckle-face 14-year-old kid with an overbite look intimidating or convincing as a villain. I can't take a character that looks like that seriously as a villain. He is an overrated character that is poorly written and never should've been made a villain AT ALL.
ApplesauceDoctr commented…
I totally forgot that when I first saw that episode (was it "Queen for a Day"?), I also thought it was strange that Varian blamed Rapunzel for a problem he caused. So,I totally agree with bạn on that. Dude needs to take responsibility for his actions. That said, I kind of see why he'd be mad at her when she DID promise to come back and help. The first movie established that she always keeps her promises, and that's the first time (to my knowledge) where she broke one. A promise is a promise. They can't always be kept (like bạn said, there was a whole kingdom at hand), but I can see why Varian would turn villain-like for that reason. In the end, I think he makes a good-ish villain, but he needs a little re-writing to be great. cách đây 8 tháng
KataraLover commented…
True, a promise is a promise but it's not like Rapunzel was cruel about it. She tried to explain her situation while he just acted like a brat that saw everything in black and white. Plus, during their tiếp theo encounter, she tries to make up for it bởi helping him but he betrays her and doesn't care that she's trying to help now. He continues to blame her when she's not at fault but he is. cách đây 8 tháng
BB2010 commented…
I’m still annoyed that they hyped up Lady Cane but then only had her in the series premiere and in one ep cách đây 6 tháng
cách đây 8 tháng magicworld_88 said…

i find "be prepared" from the lion king one of the most overrated disney song
Also even if scar is a very good villain i find sherekhan more threatening than him and a better villain
BB2010 commented…
*gasp* HOW DARE bạn cách đây 8 tháng
BB2010 commented…
nah I'm kidding :P cách đây 8 tháng
cách đây 8 tháng Sparklefairy375 said…
Some opinions about remakes, maybe it sounds similar with mhs1025's opinion above but I'll add some of my perspectives here:

1. I think Disney should stop remaking popular and classical movies especially the hit ones from 90s. Leave them alone as classics for us. I think Disney should've been remaking underrated movies more and I'm sure it would work better. People would have high hopes with remakes of popular movies and most of the time, they were ended with a huge disappointment.

So far the only remake that work well for me is Cinderella (2015) and why? That's because the director and writer stay true of the original story and focused to Ella's courage and kindness instead of add twist that ruin the story and excessive CGI like the rest did. Although Maleficent and BATB did better on box office that's only because of the huge attention towards Angelina Jolie and Emma Watson.

2. Aladdin remake is a huge MISCAST! Most of the cast are not even from the Middle East. Aladdin is the only one that was kinda accurate as the actor is Egyptian, and Egypt is a part of Middle East. The rest, well Naomi Scott is half British and half Indian (India is a South Asia country not Middle East, and their culture is DIFFERENT), Will Smith is African American (and he ain't even that funny to be the Genie imo)

I read somewhere that Disney needs longer time to find the main cast, and that's the result? Come on! Disney, if you have such a hard time to remaking non-European movies then I suggest you to not remaking them rather than bring us the disrespectful remakes towards the originals. Even the Aladdin remake would include link, Disney you just made a mistake. It would be better if Disney keep making more original POC animated movies like Moana rather than POC remakes with a lot of miscast.

Now I'm afraid with how they did Mulan with Niki Caro and Liu Yifei. Seriously.
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 Some opinions about remakes, maybe it sounds similar with mhs1025's opinion above but I'll add some o
BB2010 commented…
it's like when the cast auditioned for Beauty and the Beast bởi hát Hakuna Matata. I'm not saying it's a bad song, I just have to ask why the casting directors picked a comedy song for auditions when they could have just used the songs from Beauty and the Beast cách đây 8 tháng
deedragongirl commented…
Will Smith lacks the charisma of the late Robin Williams, Smith doesn't strike me as humourous. cách đây 8 tháng
AdelitaI commented…
I think Genie should be played bởi Middle Eastern actor. cách đây 5 tháng
cách đây 7 tháng MalloMar said…
The new live-action Cinderella (character) sort of just feels like a walking moral, and I don't feel for her as much as the animated one. Though I consider all deaths devastating, the fact that she loses her father at an older age is a tiny part of it. The first Cinderella loses hers at an age when she's still dependent and easier to influence. The dress ripping scene was sad, but they could have done so much more. I get that traumatizing kids isn't what Disney intends to do, but it feels very safe, doesn't stir up the emotions much. Also, we've seen Cinderella (new) break down before, so this scene doesn't make us feel like this is the absolute last straw for her, the way the animated one does. Also we've seen new Cinderella leave the house and go down town, something I believe the old Cinderella couldn't do. I just don't think her character is as compelling. She lacks the subtle spunk and determination we love.
Forgive me if I have my facts wrong, I've seen this movie just once and it was a while ago. It IS visually stunning, I'll give it that.
lavendersblue commented…
I agree. She feels a lot flatter than the animated character, who has thêm layers and thêm agency (ironic, considering the 65 năm difference) cách đây 7 tháng
Mongoose09 commented…
Definitely agreed. I've seen many people say live-action Lọ lem has thêm personality and I HIGHLY disagree, the 1950 version had thêm depth imo. the new one is missing the subtle sassyness of the animated, the newer one just has thêm screentime that's all. But don't get me wrong, I still tình yêu both characters and movies, but I feel the older Lọ lem had something thêm about her. Having đã đưa ý kiến all that, I do actually appreciate that we have a character like this in 2015, a lot of female characters now have to be seen as "kick-ass" so I like that they didn't completely ruin the character and kept her kind, gentle personality intact. cách đây 7 tháng
MalloMar commented…
^Very good point! cách đây 7 tháng
cách đây 6 tháng magicworld_88 said…
i used to think just like a lot of people that rapunzel and anna look a lot alike ! but not anymore in fact i find them to look very different ! they just both have huge eyes
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cách đây 6 tháng disnerdtobe said…
I like Frozen merchandise. The more, the merrier, bring it on! I don't care that they're milking the Frozen cash cow.
*this coming from a person who once bought a box of Kleenex tissues because it had Elsa and Anna on it.*
*this may or may not be a confession.*
*runs and hides.*
BB2010 commented…
honestly same. I bought Elsa and Anna barbies when I was 21 and I have a Nữ hoàng băng giá cái gối, gối on my đi văng in my apartment cách đây 6 tháng
BB2010 commented…
I have also bought Kinder Eggs, a kẹo I'm not too big a người hâm mộ of, because it came with Nữ hoàng băng giá toys. The same with Disney Princesses cách đây 6 tháng
Sparklefairy375 commented…
Haha I also agree. I tình yêu Nữ hoàng băng giá merchandises <333 I even have a Nữ hoàng băng giá giường sheet for my own bedroom xD cách đây 6 tháng
cách đây 6 tháng disnerdtobe said…
I actually like Ming-Na Wen's voice acting. Her voice acting is one of my favorites of the Disney Princesses, along with Ilene Woods and Mary Costa.
BB2010 commented…
Yeah like I đã đưa ý kiến in that phiếu bầu I did, I don’t think she was really terrible, there’s just some scenes in the movie where I think there’s not enough emotion put into her voice. I still like her for most of the movie cách đây 6 tháng
MalloMar commented…
Same here! cách đây 6 tháng
Sparklefairy375 commented…
Her voice is good, although not my personal yêu thích :) cách đây 6 tháng
wavesurf commented…
I've never found anything wrong with her voice acting. She was also good in Final fantaisie the Spirits Within. cách đây 6 tháng
cách đây 6 tháng BB2010 said…
I know it's considered overrated but I love The Lion King SO MUCH. Like I love it so much I can't even see why it's considered overrated. I love all the characters, all the songs, the animation, and the story and I can still remember all the lines. I'm really looking forward to the remake, even if it sucks I'll still want to watch it
disnerdtobe commented…
I agree, the lion king is epic and the songs are the best, perhaps the best of Disney cách đây 6 tháng
deedragongirl commented…
So true, even my younger autistic brother wants to watch it. cách đây 6 tháng
AdelitaI commented…
Honestly, people say it's better than Pocahontas so often, that it can't not have negative influence on my feelings about this movie. Same with Hunchback of Notre Dame and Mulan. I tình yêu the Scar, Mufasa( though he is far from being only great Disney dad but his quote of bravery is so great), Nala and hyenas but I hate Timon and Pumbaa. cách đây 5 tháng
cách đây 6 tháng BB2010 said…
I never understand the hate for the revival era. I guess some movies could have been better like Frozen and Winnie the Pooh (it was a shorter version of Pooh’s Grand Adventure) but is hating a couple of the movies enough to hate the entire era which has a quite a few good movies?

Or another reason I don’t understand is when people don’t like the Revival era for doing things that past movies have done. Frozen did a movie about sibling love, so did Brother Bear and Lilo and Stitch. Moana didn’t fall for the friend she made on her adventure, neither did Marlin in Finding Nemo or Bolt in Bolt.

The only ones I can really see being an issue is “you can’t marry a man you just met” and “I’m not a princess” but those only happened in two movies
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wavesurf commented…
I dunno... I recall really TRYING to like Nữ hoàng băng giá when it first came out. I tried to like Elsa, but couldn't get around her signature line, nor the part in the movie where she's so anxious about her powers, and angry at what she's done, that she hits Anna in the tim, trái tim with ice. But why send Marshmellow out there, to toss her sister out? That part I never agreed with, and never understood. That was overkill, imo. cách đây 6 tháng
wavesurf commented…
And, I didn't feel as bad about the "I'm not a princess" statement coming out of Tiana's mouth, because *circumstance, circumstance* she was--in fact-- a waitress! The way it was constructed and delivered didn't feel like Disney was making a personal statement about their "ideal for a princess"-- with mockery/pun intended against prior films. Though I don't enjoy TPATF for Tiana's narrow-mindedness, I do not think that movie hoặc Công chúa tóc mây launched the hate for the Revival. In TPATF being hitched/ hoặc being single, wasn't the driving force behind everything, either. But it was definitely the message behind Frozen, Brave, and Moana. cách đây 6 tháng
AdelitaI commented…
Hating a movie for doing things thing past movie has done but claiming the movie is not that special for this is understandable I think. BTW, I tình yêu PaTF and Tangled. cách đây 5 tháng
cách đây 6 tháng MalloMar said…
I hated/was afraid of Lucifer as a kid, but now I think he's hilarious, even a little cute. He's animated hilariously, and at times, he moves like real cats. Cracks me up!
BB2010 commented…
I tình yêu that evil kitty! cách đây 6 tháng
cách đây 5 tháng magicworld_88 said…
I think this is a very unpopular opinion XD but i find the love triangle in frozen thousand more interesting than the relationship between the sisters.
PrincessAyeka12 commented…
I wouldn’t call Anna’s tình yêu interests a tình yêu triangle. tình yêu triangles come with jealousy. The timing is off. If it was a tình yêu tam giác - Anna would be in tình yêu with Hans and Kristoff at the same time. But Anna and Kristoff don’t realise their feelings for each other until the một giây act near the end of movie. cách đây 15 ngày
PrincessAyeka12 commented…
...the end of *the* movie. That should say. cách đây 15 ngày
cách đây 5 tháng mhs1025 said…
I meant to say something about this a WHILE back, but I'm finally available the time, so, let's begin. I watched both Atlantis movies about 6 months ago, and I have some things I have to say about the animation style of each. When I watched the first Atlantis, I felt like I was watching a movie. The animation was breathtaking. When I watched the second Atlantis, I felt like I was watching a 90's TV show. The animation was alittle blotchy, and I felt like I went back to the 90's. The acting was good in both movies. I just wish they chose to stick with the original animation style for the sequel.
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BB2010 commented…
I think it was originally supposed to be a spin-off series like The Little Mermaid and Aladdin và cây đèn thần but then it was made into a movie instead cách đây 5 tháng
mhs1025 commented…
^ THAT'S some interesting information. It could also explain the blotchy phim hoạt hình style. One thing I forgot to mention was the voice actor for Milo was replaced. He did a good job voicing Milo as well. cách đây 5 tháng
cách đây 4 tháng disnerdtobe said…
I think HOND would work better as live action than animation, kinda like Les Miserables.
cách đây 16 ngày MaidofOrleans said…
Merida deserved a better written movie. She's a really complex, interesting character but the plot never explored her potential. The writers failed her.
cách đây 11 ngày MaidofOrleans said…
Some Moana confessions for POTM:

I really like Shiny, I think it's a fun song

I don't think Moana is unoriginal or bland - she's awesome!

Moana is hands down the prettiest CGI princess so far

I don't really like the way the ocean is animated... it kinda looks like a giant blue tongue to me...
KataraLover commented…
I agree with all except for the last one cách đây 11 ngày
BB2010 commented…
I agree with all of these! I was wondering what was bothering me about the ocean :p cách đây 11 ngày
AdelitaI commented…
Disagree about the prettiest. I consider Rapunzel the prettiest CGI DP but to each it’s own. cách đây 11 ngày
cách đây 11 ngày BB2010 said…
Not liking a popular movie doesn't always mean it's actually overrated, it just means you don't like it. I'm not a fan of Nightmare Before Christmas even though it's really popular but I'm not going to go around saying "Uuugh why do people like this movie? It's so overrated!!"

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It's possible to disagree without starting a big argument and going on an essay long rant
cách đây 8 ngày MaidofOrleans said…
I've heard a lot of people on here say they think Moana is unoriginal, but I disagree:

1. Moana is the only DP who is being explicitly trained to be a leader for her people and who embraces that role.

2. Moana is the only DP who desires adventure but also loves and values her home and longs to return to it once her adventure is over.

3. Moana is the only DP whose goals and story have nothing at all to do with romance or marriage.

4. Moana is the only DP who defeats her villain by not defeating them at all, and instead using compassion to understand them.

Whether or not you think she's bland is a matter of personal preference, but I fail to see how she's unoriginal, at least in the context of the DPs.
wavesurf commented…
Eh. Well, for me, the first two points bạn made, are totally covered bởi Pocahontas, who is trained to be a leader ( Moana doesn't really embrace the role of leader anymore than Poca does, in my opinion). Poca also desires adventure, but values her home, and despite her tình yêu affair with Smith, chooses her people over Smith when her adventure is over. Mulan is the first DP to really not be interested in romance, except as a side-bar. She was followed bởi Merida. So, Moana isn't the first on the no romance/marriage front at all. The only thing is the movie never has a villain at all... so yes, Moana is unique in not dispatching a real villain. But I guess, I do see where Moana is thêm of a copy of other princesses. She's got their traits, but the only unique thing is that her movie is based on a giant misunderstanding between Maui and Te Fiti. But that doesn't make Moana stand out to me, at least with the original personality end of it. But those are my thoughts on her. cách đây 8 ngày
MaidofOrleans commented…
Thank bạn for sharing your thoughts wavesurf! We can agree to disagree :) cách đây 7 ngày
MaidofOrleans commented…
@Adelital I definitely agree that Mulan loves and values her home, but yeah she doesn't desire adventure which is why I didn't count her for that point, she mostly just wants to be accepted for who she is. cách đây 7 ngày
cách đây 8 ngày BB2010 said…
I know a lot of stuff in the Disney movies is just pandering to someone but I still enjoy them. Like the scene in Endgame where all the female heroes gather to help Spider-Man, I honestly don’t care that it was just there for the feminists, I loved that part and it was so cool to see them all in action together
MaidofOrleans commented…
Same, I loved that scene cách đây 7 ngày
cách đây 8 ngày wavesurf said…
This probably is just me... but why is the Frozen 2 stuff in every toy store taking up more collective space than even the normal toy area? I am starting to feel irritated with Disney, again. Disney did this the last time around, when Frozen debuted. Gonna overdo it/wear it all out again, Disney? I understand promotional material. But overkill is overkill.
BB2010 commented…
I’ve barely seen any Nữ hoàng băng giá stuff in the stores in my town except maybe Walmart but even then it’s not as much as normal. It probably depends on the town I guess cách đây 8 ngày
wavesurf commented…
^Stores on the East Cost are extremely quick to stock up. Maybe, excessively so. cách đây 8 ngày
wavesurf commented…
^They are the audience, so then this stuff is marketed for them. That's fitting. it's just annoying for the rest of us, lol. cách đây 3 ngày
cách đây 7 ngày deedragongirl said…
I hope Into the Unknown beats Let It Go by popularity!!!
cách đây 4 ngày BB2010 said…
I don't know why but I always get so annoyed when a fan says "my [insertcharacternamehere]", especially when someone says "They ruined my Jasmine!" or "My Ariel looks terrible!"
wavesurf commented…
^Depends one how much they identify with đã đưa ý kiến character. I'm sure if Disney decided to "tweak stuff up," and messed with Elsa's personality, hair, and story, you'd feel the same way... cách đây 3 ngày
BB2010 commented…
I certainly wouldn’t call her “my Elsa” she’s not mine. Besides I identify the most with Rapunzel and Mulan and when the spinoff series and sequel came out for them I still never đã đưa ý kiến “my” anything. I always felt like the word “my” sounds possessive depending the situation. Like in Lọ lem they called each other “my Ella” and “my Kit” and I thought that was cute. When a người hâm mộ does it for a character hoặc even an actor it doesn’t feel the same cách đây 3 ngày
wavesurf commented…
^Uh. I guess calling something "mine" is what people do when they become possessive of someone hoặc something. If bạn don't call Elsa "yours," that's your choice. But I was merely referring to when someone drastically changes a media biểu tượng to the point where he/she/it no longer resembles what most people remember/identify when they first saw them. Then it angers people. Which is why your annoyance with what I observe to be "a fairly normal/typical reaction," I find to be kind of confusing. cách đây 3 ngày
BB2010 commented…
Idk why it annoys me but it does. It's not like I'm going to tell people to stop doing it because it doesn't affect me in any way cách đây 3 ngày